Thoughts on .223 AK

[gunnie]

nalioth,

thanks for input...

ANY body with WASR/weiger
polymer "promag" brand experience to report?

Deer Hunter,

the galil orlite 35 rounder mags fit VERY snugly in my 5.56 valmet, and needed to be ramped with a found file for both columns to feed 55gr ball well, esp first round from full mag. and the galils are supposed to be mfgd from the same blue prints as the valmets. they even bought the rights from valmet to produce them.

not trynna be a smart ___, but maybe you were lucky? will try them in the 2003C upon arrival, and get back here.

gunnie

 

[HorseSoldier]

Galil was adapted by the Israelis from 7.62x39 Finnish rifles, not existing an existing Finnish 5.56mm design. I think 5.56mm Valmets post-date the Galil by a decade or more.

 

[nalioth]

ANY body with WASR/weiger

Both the actual Weigers and the romanian knockoffs work fine in my Sar-3 and WASR-3.

the galil orlite 35 rounder mags fit VERY snugly in my 5.56 valmet

As has been pointed out, the Galil descends from the Valmet. I doubt very much the galil mags will fit the stg-2003c, as it uses a standard Kalashnikov receiver.

** with a big enough dremel, and a tube of JB Weld, of course, you can fit the earth to the moon **

 

[gunnie]

HorseSoldier,

you're right, did a search and the israelis adopted the 5.56 galil from the RK62 design which was 7.62, in 1972. the valmet M76 was the first 5.56 offering. do you have any thoughts as to whether the orlite galil will fit a weiger format rifle?

gunnie

PS---slow typing, nalioth's posting was up after i submitted mine.

 

[nalioth]

weiger format rifle

The closest your stg-2003c has come to being German is when the marketing peeps at InterOrdnance brainstormed a new way to sell regular old WASRs.
With the exception of the weird handguard attachment method, it is just as much a kalashnikov as any WASR/SAR/Arsenal/etc ( don't drink the marketing kool-aid )

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=351028

 

[RedLion]

You guys make me jealous!!! I wish I was born 2 years earlier so I wouldn't have to wait!

 

[MD_Willington]

lol.. I have to wait two more years unless some laws get fixed here in WA.. my toys are at my friends house now... PS, I'm 32..

 

[PaStEuRiZeD]

@RedLion - you will be lucky if you can get an ak for 600 bucks in two years.

 

[gunnie]

some differences...

nalioth,

i realize whatcher saying is basicly true. just a chrome bore, flash suppressor, and different furniture, ALL SAME-O, except the post importation finish assembly to side step corny weapon laws.

what i'm not clear on is the machining of the mag well interior. tryna cypher out what will/won't work in the modified feed chute.

gunnie

 

[nalioth]

Gunnie, the galil mags are made to ride higher in the "modified feed chute" of the Galil. You can make them work in a regular AK, but you'll also weaken the locking tabs on them when you do so (you have to grind a lot off).

Just because you "can make it work" doesn't mean you should:

 

[gunnie]

dude, that's brutal!!!

thanks for reminding us all that unplanned pregnancy, to unqualified parents, is a FAR greater risk than fire arms ownership will ever be.

seriously, thanx for info,

gunnie

 

[Dave Markowitz]

Arsenal SA M5, one of the nicest AKs I've had the pleasure to see, and it's all mine:

 

[RedLion]

@RedLion - you will be lucky if you can get an ak for 600 bucks in two years.

I'm not nearly as concerned about the cost! I just hope I can get one period

 

[Extremely Pro Gun]

How many rounds in the group? Also, is this every group or once or twice a range session?

haha its a one shot group.

 

[nalioth]

Extremely Pro Gun, I'd suggest you look at upgrading your ISP.

You suffered an 18 month lag in responding to this . .