Threaded .45 Help

[Bullz]

I could not find a similar thread so...

I'm looking to purchase a pistol in .45acp with a factory threaded barrel. I'm currently looking at a Sig Carry 1911 Scorpion or an HK45 Compact Tactical. I want the gun to be concealable (i.e. commander sized 1911 or smaller) and it has to have a threaded barrel.

I'm posting here because I'm looking to the community for two things:

1) Has anyone run the above suppressed? (looking to pickup a 45Osprey)

2) Opinions: Any thoughts, concerns, or issues with the above mentioned pistols; or preferences?

3) Any other suggested pistols worth considering?

Thanks in advance!

 

[mljdeckard]

I don't know if I would bother to suppress a compact gun. I would probably buy the gun, and then get another barrel for it and have it threaded.

 

[GCBurner]

I got a Lone Wolf threaded barrel for my .45 Glock 30, and it works fine, and was a drop-in fit.

 

[Bullz]

Just to clarify... I'm not looking for a small gun. Looking for a barrel length of at least 4 inches...just not full size 1911.

The lone wolf idea is great... if I could find one for my kahr p45 I would be the happiest guy ever. So if someone knows who would make that barrel, please share.

Otherwise, I think it makes the most sense to go with a new factory setup.

 

[JTQ]

Expect some trouble finding a concealment holster for a threaded barreled pistol. There are some, but expect to spend some effort searching for one.

 

[SharpsDressedMan]

Several point to consider. First, your choices are good, and compact guns make the total suppressed package more manageable. The S&W M&P also has tactical models and threaded barrels from the factory. Sparks and Kramer have made me some fine holsters, and Sparks made one slightly extended for a full size 1911 with threaded barrel, but if you go Commander length, just get the regular Gov't sized one, as it will be about 3/4" longer than the Commander. Kydex is another option, and Blade-Tech made me a nice one for the same gun. (See picture below). I notice you are in Ohio. Watch out for the Ohio laws, as they do not permit "dangerous ordnance" (i.e. suppressor) to be carried concealed. ...............................................

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[raze]

Just to clarify... I'm not looking for a small gun. Looking for a barrel length of at least 4 inches...just not full size 1911.

The lone wolf idea is great... if I could find one for my kahr p45 I would be the happiest guy ever. So if someone knows who would make that barrel, please share.

Otherwise, I think it makes the most sense to go with a new factory setup.

There are companies that can do it off your old barrel. They true up and weld on a threaded extension

 

[TIMC]

I would suggest comparing specs of the guns before going with either of the two you are looking at. I don't know that I would be willing to give up have my ammo capacity for 3/4" in length and height. Overall there is not much difference in the size of the guns comapred to some high capacity full size guns. I have found 3/4" to 1" shorter barrel does not make much difference in the way the gun feels when carried.

I can easily carry my FNP45 or FNX9 with threaded barrels. and I still keep the capacity of 16 rounds of .45 acp with the FNP and 18 rounds of 9mm with the FNX9.

As far as the Osprey, I hope to be able to tell you in a few weeks. My stamps are due in at the end of the month if they keep to their 6 month approval process. I am waiting ot pick up my Osprey 45 among others.

I do agree with you on the Kahr CW45, it would be way cool to find an extended threaded barrel for it.

 

[JTQ]

Beretta PX4 http://www.berettausa.com/products/px4-f45acpspecial-duty-1-9rd-and-2-10rd-mag/

 

[Bullz]

TIMC - please let me know about that osprey when you get a chance to run it. I'm especially curious about the sound when wet. I'd like to check out an fnx45.... probably too big though. I agree about the capacity.

All good tips guys. Thanks for the replies. The px4 is cool....but requires aftermarket threading.

 

[TIMC]

TIMC - please let me know about that osprey when you get a chance to run it. I'm especially curious about the sound when wet. I'd like to check out an fnx45

I'll let you know when I get my cans. I already have the barrels on my guns waiting, it has been a long 6 months!

These are my host guns ready and waiting.... Now I just need the BATF to send me my stamps!

 

[Bullz]

What make is that 1911? And how do you like the USP?

 

[TIMC]

What make is that 1911? And how do you like the USP?

The 1911 is a Kimber Warrior, excellent handgun, I have had it quite a few years now.

The USP is an awesome handgun and has always been my most accurate factory handgun in .45 acp. This gun is a handful, unless you have big old meat hooks like I do it may be a little big in the hand. I find the FNP45 almost identicle in feel and accuracy.

The one thing I did do with the USP is take the Burris fastfire back off of it and went with a set of Meprolite sights. I like it much better now and should be able to see these sights over the Osprey.

 

[HKGuns]

I did a lot of research before buying a supressor for my 45CT. Curious why you are selecting the Osprey when the SWR Octane 45HD is a better suppressor by nearly every measure?

I'm still waiting on mine, so I have no direct experience at this point. However, based on the research I conducted before my purchase, I would reconsider your choice of suppressor.

The 45CT was and would still be my choice to run suppressed. There are folks using them who trust their lives on them.

 

[Flt Simulation]

Maybe I am uninformed, but I can't see any reason why a normal citizen would need a silencer on a handgun.

Or when you say "suppressor", are you talking about something completely different?

 

[SharpsDressedMan]

Ever fired a handgun? They are loud. Sound suppressor are so common sense, I'm surprised you missed that. All handguns should have sound suppressor built into them.

 

[Flt Simulation]

I missed it alright

Sure, I fire handguns a lot. I own a Colt Gold Cup .45ACP I take to our outdoor range all the time.

I have found that a set of these does very well in protecting your hearing ... and you don't even need to have your barrel threaded to use it.



Maybe I am missing the big picture here?

 

[Telekinesis]

Maybe I am uninformed, but I can't see any reason why a normal citizen would need a silencer on a handgun.

Well, typically the best answer is "because I want one and because I can"

Suppressors not only protect your hearing but they protect the hearing of everyone around the weapon as well. In many European countries, firing a weapon unsuppressed is seen as impolite. They also reduce recoil and the loud impulse noise when the weapon is fired, making it easier to use suppressed weapons to teach new shooters because they are less likely to be afraid of the gun or develop a flinch.

As far as the practical use of suppressors, consider if you're inside your home firing at a home intruder. Not only is your hearing going to be taking the auditory hit of several rounds fired at about 160db, your entire family will be subject to that as well. And remember that hearing damage is permanent and cumulative. Now if you have a suppressor on that gun, you're going to be hearing around 125-130db, which is roughly the equivalent of a car door slamming. Nowhere near the kind of silent shooting you see in movies, but enough to protect your hearing.

I'm not sure where this quote is from, but one of my favorite quotes regarding suppressors is that "if firearms were invented today, OSHA would require suppressors to be included on firearms for safety reasons".

OP: I would try to pick the pistol first, then look for the threaded barrel. Most if not all guns will be able to have a threaded barrel added to them.

 

[Derek Zeanah]

Maybe I am uninformed, but I can't see any reason why a normal citizen would need a silencer on a handgun.

So I can shoot my 1911 in the back yard and not wear hearing protection, or bother the neighbors. Well, the steel ringing might, but that sounds good.

So I can use the 1911 on my nightstand indoors if necessary and not suffer due to muzzle flash and the blast from the muzzle that's worse because it's indoors.

Because I want one. Now mail me my tax stamps ATF (like you're not watching... )

 

[Flt Simulation]

QUOTE: "So I can shoot my 1911 in the back yard and not wear hearing protection, or bother the neighbors".
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Ok, I can understand that a silencer on a gun might make the neighbors more happy ...

Of course, in my case, if I shot my .45ACP off in my back yard, someone would be calling 911 within seconds ... and within minutes I would have every cop within 20 miles of me at my front door.

Jeeeze, I might even be on CNN!

 

[Bobson]

I missed it alright

Sure, I fire handguns a lot. I own a Colt Gold Cup .45ACP I take to our outdoor range all the time.

I have found that a set of these (muffs) does very well in protecting your hearing ...

Even the best earmuffs do a relatively poor job of protecting your hearing. The tympanic cavity and eustachian tube, which are parts of the inner ear, are lined with microscopic hairs that aid the central nervous system in picking up sound. Those hairs become permanently damaged when sound waves over a certain pressure come into contact with them. Simply covering your ear doesn't adequately protect them, and when they're gone, that's it - you're deaf. The only way to fully eliminate that damage is to eliminate the source of the sound within your proximity.

 

[SharpsDressedMan]

Flt Simulator :"Of course, in my case, if I shot my .45ACP off in my back yard, someone would be calling 911 within seconds ... and within minutes I would have every cop within 20 miles of me at my front door.

Jeeeze, I might even be on CNN" ...........................................................................................
NOT if you had a suppressor on it!

 

[Sam Cade]

Maybe I am uninformed, but I can't see any reason why a normal citizen would need a silencer on a handgun.

Would you ever purchase a device whose sole function was to make your firearms louder?

 

[HKGuns]

but I can't see any reason why a normal citizen would need a silencer on a handgun.

Yeah, and there are also people who don't see why a "normal" citizen needs 30 round magazines either. They're just as uninformed.

 

[SharpsDressedMan]

Let's suppose that the federal government regulates, but makes it legal for US citizens over 21 to own and use silencers (sound suppressors), and unless their local and state laws forbid it, silencer ownership is as legal as owning a car. Would you accept the government's stand on ownership, an accept that your neighbor can own one if he wants to? You don't have to own one, but you don't have a problem with you neighbor exercising HIS rights, do you? That is the law, and that is what personal freedom is all about. ...........................................................................

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