Threatening animal running loose? End the threat.

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In Utah, animals are a 'strict liability'. You are responsible for your animals, and all of the actions of your animals, period. If there is someone in your home against whom deadly force is permitted by the law, your dog is still not allowed to bite them. If your animals are loose, and no one else is there to dispute the claim they were acting aggressively, the claim is a done deal. A person cannot reasonably be expected to wait until the dogs are close enough to bite to find out if they are playing or attacking, especially with children in the mix.

I don't find it at all surprising that the dog was hit squarely in the head. If he was running at the person, there is a very narrow space where it would be hit.

I feel the same way about stiopping a charging pit bull with a .22 as I do about stopping a charging human with a .22.
 
People always ask me if my dogs bite and my standard response has always been (they have teeth don't they). The reason is that a dog may never have bitten anybody but it only take once. I do have a pitbull, he loves people, BUT if you come in the yard after dark he will bite. He doesn't have the same reaction during daylight hours. I see no reason to condem a dog for doing what he's supposed to do. BUT it's the owners responsibility to control and confine his animal. Saying all that, if for some reason he got out and was in someones yard I would have no problem with someone putting him down, yes it would hurt my feelings but I cannot hold a grudge for someone doing what they felt was needed to protect their family. This is the reason I take every precaution to avoid this from happening. Do I think dogs need training? yes I do and I also feel that dog owners need training to. I grew up in a rural area and I just don't seem to remember people just assuming dogs to be friendly. What has changed?
 
Inspector Cleauseau: "Does your dog bite?"

Old Man With Dog: "No."

Inspector Cleauseau (to dog): "Nice doggy ... AAAHHH!"

Inspector Cleauseau (to Old Man With Dog): "I thought you said your dog does not bite."

Old Man With Dog: "That is not my dog."
 
Where I live you can shoot dogs that cross your property but not cats. Crazy lady down the road has 50 cats that try to get under my house. Had the SPCA called when one left my property with a few holes. The officer says "yea feel free to shoot any stray dogs but you must leave the cats alone." I love dogs and would never shoot one unless it was attacking me. The cats are damaging my property what BS.

The best test of a handgun calibre is a feral cat, they are very difficult to drop with one shot.
 
I've had to shoot two dogs in my life. One, a large mangy (litterally) shepard, obviously sick. It had been hanging around my place after some renters a few houses down abandoned it when they moved. I'd been leaving some food out for it. One day it growled at me & my toddler daughter, .22 in the head & it was over. the second I found in my chicken coop killing chickens. A .22 mag in the lungs. I felt bad about that one because while the dog stopped, it took 15 or twenty seconds to die.
Out where I live there's always somebody's dog in the yard even the neighbors pits on occasion, I don't really mind but I won't have me or mine threatened. Not when I've got gran'kids runnin' loose.
 
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I asked an officer a few years ago when I had ALOT of stray dog problems. He told me I had a right to protect myself, family, and livestock. He was concerned about what i was going to use because I have very close neighbors. This was before the home defense laws changed, for the better. I live near Austin Tx. He did have to look in his little book of laws and I imagine depending on the officer it may present some hassel
 
i misfortunately have a Aussie Shepard-both parents winner herders and the breeder was most put out by this puppy. it was born broke in the mind. put short--it has a VERY strong instinct to heard large things (cattle are like 1500 pounds) and is fearless. it does not know what to do with a car after it catches it but it still does. it also thinks people are the other white meat. i call here nipper. the neighbors call her go away.
beautiful tri Merl with 3 colors in her evil eyes. she is 9 now but still tests my alpha twice a year[ her rutting time?] if you are family, you are safe.
smart, strong, willful; and if she don't go soon i will probably help her. odd though that she controls cattle people-whatever with her teeth by nipping she has never drawn blood.
i could understand if someone shot her--but if they are on my property, i'll be helping them along in their quest to speak with a higher power.
 
mljdeckard wrote:
In Utah, animals are a 'strict liability'.
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In Utah and Idaho it was not a felony until just a few months ago to fight dogs and participate in this heinous activity. The laws are still not enforced very well either. And, in Utah it is obviously okay to pull a gun in the middle of the street and shoot it at dogs - long live the Wild West. It's a miracle no one was killed in the process by the gunshots.

There are NO problem dogs, just problem owners!
 
Well, I was serving an eviction notice with a county deputy one day years ago.
The tenant came to the door with his pitt with him. Told us he wasn't leaving and he removed the leash from the pitt. I shot it dead right between his legs, and told him to be sure and take the pit with him.

Two years ago I was on the property clearing some lumber. Well i sat down for a break and after a bit I heard several dogs growling and yapping and I heard what sounded like another animal howling. So me being the curious type I got up and went to see.

Came on a Shepherd, a pit mix, and a mutt that were attacking a pygmy goat.

I knew the next neighbor over had several pygmy goats so I went to chase the three dogs off. They dropped the goat and the shepherd and Pitt started to circle. Two shots of my 357 to the Pitt and one to the shepherd, the mutt wanted no part of that action and left.

Those two dog skeletons are still where I dropped them. About a week went by and a fella from up the road came by and was looking for two of his dogs........ A shepherd and a pitt............Far as I know he is still looking.

The 3 S principle apply,s around here... shoot ...shovel....shut up.........works fine for me.
 
Nope different geo-political boundaries. Read and re-read.
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A little quick on the draw there, eh?

I was not referencing referencing http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=5213182&postcount=52 To be honest, I don't see how you came to that conclusion in the first place.

It was, in fact, a question that resulted from this post, that I found after searching this post for Texas law.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=4420622&postcount=60

I wanted to ask here, since I couldn't ask in that thread.


I think my reading skills are intact. :)
 
You were very lucky with that .22 as I've shot a number of 'em with .38's and 12 gauges and most died very hard. I'll never forget the pitbull cross weighing about 60 lbs. that charged me. Four fast shots center mass with a .38, still coming. The 5th shot it stumbled and started to go down (turns out I broke his shoulder). I jumped to the side and fired the last round into the side of him, hitting him inside the ear and that stopped him.
 
One of the reasons I got licensed to carry was because of feral dogs in the area. They tend to travel in packs and they aren't afraid of people. I've shot and killed one.
 
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