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Poor guy... he posts for holster help and ends up getting his personal life reviewed. But all you folks are right about what you've said...

One thing is sure and certain: In a few years he'll realize that and laugh about this little round table discussion. :)

UWstudent, I wish you the very very best... as I'm sure we all do.

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Look into your heart man, HONESTY is the best policy. Who knows she may admire you for it and just ask you to keep the guns away from her. This is a reasonable request. As said before if you lie and she finds out you're TOAST. Believe me I went through the same thing. Just hid them in the house, locked of course. Through a process she found them and now I am being buttered on both sides. I wish I would have been honest up frontl
 
GEM said:
1. Ditch the guns - get the girl
2. Keep the guns - ditch the girl
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no no no, consider all the possibilities

1. ditch the guns - get the girl - hate yourself for ditching the guns
2. ditch the guns - girl is a prejudicial bitch anyway - hate yourself for ditching the guns
3. keep the guns - get the girl - success
4. keep the guns - girl is a prejudicial bitch anyway - you're still happy with yourself at least.

shakespeare's polonius the wise fool said it best, "to thy own self be true!"
 
LOL.. i love you guys.. well after considering all the possibilities i'll take otomik's #3 option. keep guns - get girl = sucess. and after she finds out on her own, and leaves.. then that's her problem. and i refuse to hide nunchucks under my pillows rather than a 1911.
i dont know if many of you are aware, but i live in tacoma (school in seattle though) which is ranked something like #10th in the nation for homocide and like top 5 for meth. and i hear stories every day about some poor dude getting his house broken into and getting shot a few times before his house got robbed. and then there was another incident here a while ago about 2 guys trying to prevent a group of "thugs" from letting a teenage girl from being beaten to death (she was being kicked and trampled in the face and all bloodied up) and the thugs turned around and beat those two individuals to death. wouldn't you think the outcome would have been different if those two men pulled out two big ass .45's and told the "thugs" to scram? i do.
 
Try explaining why you own guns to her just like that, even if she is a radical liberal she should have a hard time claiming that those victims shouldn't be armed. There is allways the chance that she hates guns b/c she is afraid of them. If that is the case it is possible to SLOWLY desensitize her to them, and eventually she may become a gun-nut. I've seen this happen with more than a few "anti-gunners".

either way, best of luck.

I know what it feels like having to dump a cute girl because you simply don't mesh. Its a bad business all around.:(
 
Ever invited her to the range ? Take a Gamo in .177, and if she likes it move to the .22 LR. What's the harm in shooting a "BB Gun", eh ?
 
yeah, it seems like a good idea to start her off with bb-guns and move her up the caliber ladder but i actually asked her what she disliked about guns so much.. (ya'll wont like this) and her response was "it's stupid and not classy". so come to think of it, i believe it's more of her public image. she doesn't want to touch them because they're "dirty and gross" as well. the environment she resides in also facters on what sort of image she wants to disply publicly because the other sorority girls go out of their way to be classy and cute. and of course, guns are dirty and manly (to them). sooo.... what am i going to do? i'll probably get thunderwear, just to try it out and see how comfortable it is during summer when im wearing shorts. am i gonna keep seeing this chick? yes. will i cry over her if she leaves me b/c i practice the 2nd amendment. hell ****'n no. will i tell u guys how it goes when she finds out? yes :evil:
 
maybe a beretta or CZ catalog on your coffee table, very classy looking. my "world of beretta" coffee table book isn't bad either. project your best bond, james bond classy image of a gun owner :cool:

the subject came up with some friends in a restaurant, said they didn't like guns, didn't know I owned any and my disarming reply was simply "you'd like my gun if you met it, it's very cute."
 
It helps if you give your gun some innocuous and sweet-sounding name, which makes it sound more "friendly" to anti-gun ears. For example, I call my elephant gun "Fluffykins"... :neener:
 
;) A KelTec P3AT in an RJ Hedley or similar "wallet" holster in the back pocket looks/feels like a regular wallet. You DO keep your cash/credit card, etc. in your FRONT pocket anyway, eh? She'll never know you have the KT on board....simple.

When you are not with her, strap on the 1911.

If/when the SHTF (hopefully never!!)....you'll both be happy you have your CCW handy. My vote....keep the hottie!
 
I love my smartcarry holster. I carry a sig 229, and that is my main way of carrying.

Trust me though, she will find it. I had one girl who even made a game of seeing if I was carrying. It was fun, but pretty annoying at the same time. And if the relationship does get more "serious," then the game is up anyway.
 
Why is dumping her not a possibility?

And if you don't tell her, you're only going to hurt yourself and her in the end. Let her know about it. If you aren't upfront, honest and won't communicate your feeling on the subject, then you're only decieving yourself. Let her know. Use phrases such as: "Honey, I carry this gun to protect YOU!!". Let her know that you do for her safety first and foremost and yours second.

These are my only suggestions. Let her know whats going on and why you do it. If she won't come around to the idea, the you are going to lose one of the loves in your life.
 
I have to agree with everybody else's relationship advice. You can't build a relationship on hiding things from each other. At least not until you know each other well enough to realize what your woman doesn't want you to tell her. (My fiance is a worrier, she doesn't like me to tell her some stuff she doesn't need to know.)

My fiance is not a gun nut, but she knows I own firearms and is comfortable with that fact. She is far more comfortable with me owning guns than, say, me buying a motorcycle. She has gone shooting with me a grand total of twice. I have convinced her that she needs to know basic firearms safety for her own good, especially since I will have guns in the house. She sees the common sense in this.

As for thunderwear, not a fan. I don't know if they've improved the design, but at one point thunderwear was more like an extra pocket slung at crotch level than a real holster. The gun isn't held securely and could shift. There was one guy on either TFL or THR who wore a small glock in thunderwear. The gun shifted and when he went to take it out before bed, one of his fingers wrapped around the trigger instead of the grip. Bang! One hole in his inner thigh. Scared his wife to death, but he missed everything important and was able to walk out of the emergency room. Yes, it's his fault but it could happen to anybody.

Only point firearms at things you want to destroy. That's the rule. There is no holster exception. With thunderwear, you're pointing a firearm at your family jewels, or the bones in your hips, or the important veins and arteries going to/from your legs. It is a bad area to get shot. Why would you deliberately point a gun there?
 
I'd have to mention the two following points

first off thunderware comes so close as to be near identical to what i've heard friends who work in LE refer to as "vasectomy carry", regardless of all other considerations, you're sticking a gun (known "LOADED gun" at that) in your pants in intimate proximity to an area of your body that if damage DOES occur then it will likely be irreparable, if not lethal, a wound to that reigon can bleed out FAST!

second, If it's not worth the trouble to talk this out with her (at whatever pace is necessary) to find out if she's amenable to YOU having a gun and your reasons behind them, and then deciding what to do on your end based on her reactions. then maybe you need to rethink the whole relationship, ie why are YOU in it. again if this relationship continues to remain serious and "develop" so to speak she WILL find out, and taking steps/pains to hide your choices is lying to her. i know that if i'd done so with some of the ladies i dated they would have seen the ommission in the same light as if i'd been unfaithful to them. if you choose to lie about this, what else , she will ask herself, have you or will you lie about as well??

i will not counsel you to dump her, that's not appropriate, as so far you have not stated that she is completely and totally against firearms at a core level.

asthetic objections, "that's an icky bad nasty thing! i'm not touching it" or "that LOOKS evil" (i'm working with my step-daughter on that one) can be overcome, as well as a number of what you might call moral objections, "guns are use to kill people" etc, what usually can not be overcome are objections that have become indoctrinated into the person's mindset and personal veiw of the world at a core level. or alternately, you have people like my own mother who lost her brother to a still inadequately explained AD, that have reasons to dislike guns due to personal history.

what you need to find out is where her objections to firearms really are, are they something that can be overcome or toned down, or is she so against firearms that she is unwilling to have them known ot be near her?
 
first off thunderware comes so close as to be near identical to what i've heard friends who work in LE refer to as "vasectomy carry", regardless of all other considerations, you're sticking a gun (known "LOADED gun" at that) in your pants in intimate proximity to an area of your body that if damage DOES occur then it will likely be irreparable, if not lethal, a wound to that reigon can bleed out FAST!
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You sound like a lawyer.

True, Thunderwear or a Smartcarry place a loaded gun close to your gondads/femoral artery, but how many of your LE friends actually know someone who's shot themsleves with this type of holster? Probably zero. My wife makes a joke everytime I strap mine on. It is very easy to make jokes but it's a great product.

The gun isn't held securely and could shift. There was one guy on either TFL or THR who wore a small glock in thunderwear. The gun shifted and when he went to take it out before bed, one of his fingers wrapped around the trigger instead of the grip. Bang!
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Gee, who is at fault here? The holster, or the moron who shot himself?
 
I'll try to help as nice as I can on this subject. :rolleyes:

Sounds like you need to get Fish-net stockings, since you are not even married and she's already wearing the pants. :barf:

Boy, don't get P-whipped, Turn that SH!^ around and whip that P#@@&. (from some Eddie Murphy movie) :D

Tell her the truth and show her those hand cannons. :scrutiny: I'm sure she showed you hers.
 
There are two kinds of women: long-term investment and short-term gratification. If she's long-term investment, you've got to straighten out the gun thing before you waste any more time. If she's short-term gratification and you can hide your gun, that's fine.
 
Questions like this make me love my wife even more. She never minds the third wheel in our relationship. She realizes that I'd as soon go without pants, as go without the carry piece.

I have tried ThunderWear. I personally didn't like it because it took to long to get to my gun. That is probably why I no longer use it.
 
Simple solution: Since the newest conservative is always a liberal who got mugged, take her through an area where you have no business being. When you meet the inevitable mugger, demonstrate the effectiveness of the handgun, and show first hand how her misconceptions about guns are outweighted by the protection offered. :D

Seriously, I know nothing about Thunderwear, but good luck regardless. Hold it.....was that what the Thundercats wore? :rolleyes:
RT

Thunder, thunder, thunderwear, HO!
 
MDG1976 said:
Gee, who is at fault here? The holster, or the moron who shot himself?
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Ultimately he is, if for no other reason than because he bought the holster. On the other hand, those who say "it can never happen to me" are idiots.

Thunderwear points your gun at vital areas of your body, holds it poorly, and makes you draw it <i>by feel.</i> Think about it. You are drawing a gun from below your belt line. How do you actually see the gun? You probably can't. Is the holster constructed in such a way that you don't need to see it? No, in fact the gun can change positions without too much trouble and the trigger can easily be pulled. So you need to go slow. But will you be going slow in a crisis situation or if you are in a hurry? Of course not.

There are other ways to safely carry concealed. Why not use them?
 
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