Too Much Recoil!

[hankdatank1362]

He already said he was USN.... probably the best place for him!

 

[macFarlaine]

Ok,I have a 4bore with 4inch chambers,weight is a problem with this gun,it is far too heavy to use for pass goose shooting.Or maybe a 7ft punt gun,not a shoulder gun but it scares the hell out of most people.

 

[Mulliganpaintdee]

Well the only guns I can think of off the top of my head is the .577 Trex and a .60 cal hand gun. You should youtube those beasts

 

[hksw]

Why don't you get a bolt rifle built for .50 BMG, short barrel, no break, less than 10 lbs total? I'm sure it'll give you what you want.

 

[sierrabravo45]

Theres a 4 bore double rifle for sale at the Cabelas in Post Falls, Idaho. I think they want 110,000 for it, but you would get yours sh&*s and giggles.

 

[Pigspitter]

I'll let you fire my M44 "blooper" style with the butt plate about three inches away from your lower gut. That will cure you forever.

 

[Owen Sparks]

I handle recoil well and I think there is a scientific reason. I'm about 5'10" and weigh 168 lbs but I can bench press 300 with free weights. That means that my upper body is rather light but solid. I have shot with a large individual who weighed over 300 pounds but was fat and flabby. He would get a bruised shoulder after shooting several boxes of 12ga field loads. I think the reason is that a lighter man moves with the recoil while a larger man's inertia causes him to soak up much of the blow before his greater body mass can be accelerated. I have observed this phenomenon in other venues. In martial arts it has been observed that a large man is more likely to sustain damage from a blow to the body. If a wiry 150 pounder takes a solid shot to the torso he will bounce off, but a big man will absorb much of the blow and be hurt.

OS

 

[mpmarty]

Well I've got 308 Winchesters, a 7mm Rem Mag in a light bolt action sporter but the king of kick out of my stable is an old Marlin 1895 carbine in 45/70 with 400gr reloads at close to 2000fps. This thing weighs about six pounds and has a plain steel buttplate. My Schmidt Rubins are some of the gentlest rifles I shoot for comparable ME levels.

 

[GeezerwithGuns]

If you enjoy a big bang, I suppose you could always do it "economy style" and light off an M-80 in your hand.

 

[K3]

but the king of kick out of my stable is an old Marlin 1895 carbine in 45/70 with 400gr reloads at close to 2000fps. This thing weighs about six pounds and has a plain steel buttplate.

This is not surprising given the numbers attached to the three important variables: bullet weight, muzzle velocity, and rifle weight. That's gotta be a heckuva punch!

Edit:

According to calculations, that will produce around 52.5 lb-ft of recoil energy. Ouch.

 

[berkbw]

Rembering from the 1st in this thread -

When I was MUCH younger, I used to take my arsenal to the AZ boonies, and rip off a few hundred, from each. Anyone remember the TV pix of tanks firing in the "4-day war"? And the shock wave emenating? I watched as my wife touched off some Argentine mouser rounds in an '08 sporter.. same thing. The recoil/shock is a lot like "shock treatment", and can REALLY chill you out after a stressful week.

It can also change the apples to applesauce. Brain-jelly and blindness are signs of something taken too far. I hope that the original poster has a friend/lover who cares enough for him as he is to prevent the degenerative future. One would hope that there is a division between macho and stupid.

There are things out there that can seriously impair you after the 1st shot. If you are man enough to do 5 shots, you will *probably* get out of the hospital.

Enough from me - who, no doubt suffered the "recoil?..nah" in the past..

b-

 

[rcmodel]

I found what was fun and bearable when I was 20 something is a lot different then it is now that I am pushing 65.


rcmodel

 

[230RN]

Owen Sparks noted:

I handle recoil well and I think there is a scientific reason. I'm about 5'10" and weigh 168 lbs but I can bench press 300 with free weights. That means that my upper body is rather light but solid. I have shot with a large individual who weighed over 300 pounds but was fat and flabby. He would get a bruised shoulder after shooting several boxes of 12ga field loads. I think the reason is that a lighter man moves with the recoil while a larger man's inertia causes him to soak up much of the blow before his greater body mass can be accelerated. I have observed this phenomenon in other venues. In martial arts it has been observed that a large man is more likely to sustain damage from a blow to the body. If a wiry 150 pounder takes a solid shot to the torso he will bounce off, but a big man will absorb much of the blow and be hurt.

Probably true. In addition, it would seem that with the fat person, at first, the only thing opposing the recoil is the weight of the gun, until the fat compresses and the butt of the gun is "set" against the rest of the mass of his body. Therefore, the gun picks up more energy than if it were set solidly against the body.

I've noted that the recoil of the Garand seems much milder than in a Springfield 03, probably because the gases are throwing the weight of the operating rod backward while they are pushing the bullet forward for a brief time.

Garand himself noted that the measured recoil of the Garand is about the same as in a Springfield, but it feels milder "because the rate of application is different."

I have noticed a difference in the recoil of my SKS 59/66 with the gas valve shut. It definitely feels "stiffer" in its recoil with the gas shut off. I also suspect, but cannot confirm yet, that it shoots more accurately with the gas shut off.

 

[K3]

I'm 33, and I love shooting anything in .223/5.56. A little tap on the shoulder lets you know the little copper jacketed beauty is on its way!

I've got some recoil heavy rifles, and I do use them, but enjoyment of the recoil isn't the first thing that pops into my head.

 

[Gunz72]

thanks for all the input.

sorry i dont use proper punciation or caps. next time i will remember eveyopne in here is perfect. my post will be in essy form and gramaticaly correct.

the navy mesurese ther wepons in inches and mm thats why they are called 16in guns and we have smaller 7.62mm. it doesnt make since to convert 16in to mm.there is no reason to call a 16 in gun a 406.4 mm. just to make a few people happy. go ahead ask someone what aa 406mm gun is. then ask about a 16in.

for a CRAPPY topic sure had some people going.

have a good one

 

[Roswell 1847]

There was an English lord named Baker who had a couple of custom guns , one was called "Son of a Cannon" the other was called "Paula".
Baker was an hereditary Knight and was 6'8" and over three hundred pounds of muscle. Paula spun him around twice when he fired her offhand and the explosive shell he used ripped the fore quarter off a Cape Buffalo at some ridiculously long range. I think Paula was a .900 caliber.
Son of a Cannon was larger not sure of the gauge.

I can remember when 4 gauge flintlocks were still available by mailorder. Thats a 4 ounce lead ball with a handful of powder. Enough to knock an Elephant Arse over Tea Kettle.

Try one of those.

Or give the WW1 Anti Tank Rifles a try.

 

[offroaddiver]

most recoil has to be a 50 cal bolt after the owner had a gunsmith make it a "nail driver". He decided to have the gunsmith change the gunstock out when the stock had a recoil reducer built in and changed the barrel to one without a brake. I felt the recoil and decided to play it off like it was set perfectly and told him couldnt feel any recoil. I'm 6'5 280, he is 5'7 180 soaking wet... he pulls trigger and it knocks him off the stool of the shooting bench.

other fun gun was a double barrel 12 ga that a "friend" decided to put their really hot load slugs in. The trigger was messed up or messed with and fired both barrels... It messed up my shoulder pad I used for long days of shooting clay targets.

 

[BridgeWalker]

I do kind of enjoy a bit of recoil. Lets me know I'm shooting a gun.

But I'm no recoil hound. I have a high pain tolerance and have been known to do myself permanent damage before noticing it hurt much.

I'm pretty conservative. I'd like my body to pretty much last as long as I do. I'll shoot 12 gauge all day, and I like shooting my friend's Blackhawk .357 mag. My 91/30 is a real hoot, as is my friend's 45/70 (the lever action, not the derringer ).

But I'm pretty sure if I start testing the limits of my endurance, I'll do some long-term damage before my endurance runs out. Seems a common theme around here, anyway, so maybe I am right to be wary.

 

[Intune]

3.5 12ga goose load laying flat on my back. Pump gun. First time goose hunting. The guide yelled, "get 'em!" I raised the shotgun up from my side, picked out a Snow & fired. The world turned on edge & someone mewed, "Momma." (Never did find out who that was... ) I looked over at both images of the guide and they appeared to be in intense pain, in fact, nearly doubled over with it. This obviously was no time to accuse them of packing the barrel with C4 'cause the dudes were hurtin' so bad they were crying. He eventually regained his composure, lost his mirror image & said with a wry smile, "two things. First, you got the bird. Secondly, you might want to consider sitting up before you touch that thing off again." This amused the entire hunting party to no end and I'm still not sure if they were laughing at the first part or the second part. At the poker game that night any mention of "laying down" a hand would incite fresh peals of laughter. Ha, ha. Very funny. "Is there any more ice in that cooler?"

You can keep the NEF single shot youth shotguns, the Airweight magnums & the really big Weatherby's. I have goose hunting.

 

[jakemccoy]

Hi recoil lovers,

I heard the S&W 340 in .357 Mag has a ferocious recoil that is comparable to swinging a baseball against a telephone pole as hard as possible. I'll pass, thanks though.

Regards,
Jake McCoy

 

[bluestarlizzard]

my dad is a short tough old b------ (and yes i call him that to his face 'cause its funny) he can and will shoot large calibers. but he isn't going to shoot them just because he can because he doesn't like hurting his hand to try and prove he's a man. he says that its a guy thing and that some of them are smart enough to grow out of it.
op, grow up.
(was that to mean..... i can't tell)

anyhoo, shooting large calibers is one thing if you have a reason. and liking a certain gun above its recoil is a good reason (its why i will try to continue shooting the glock 21, even though i'm gonna have to find some sort of pad 'cause it hits the webbing between my thumb and pointer really hard). however shooting a large, uncomfortable caliber just because its large and uncomfortable just to say you are tough is really very pointless.

 

[loose cannon]

16 rounds of 2.5" 1/2ounce #4shot .410ga from a american derringer with 4 inch barrels and the wood birdhead grips.

couldnt hold a pen right the next day. young and stupid.

 

[WinchesterAA]

I shoot weird, so recoil AFAICT hasn't broken me in any way. After shooting all day long (1000ish rounds) of x54r no bruises or discomfort anywhere.

dunno.

 

[PTK]

The only firearm I currently have that hurts to shoot is my NEF .45-70. It has a steel buttplate, weighs about 7.5lbs, and with anything other than lighter loads, is rather unpleasant to shoot. Sure is a hoot, though.

 

[siglite]

It's always the young guys at the range who jump up and down about their $70 Mosin is THE AWESOME and everyone was looking at ME. However, when you talk to them, it is evident that they have had no instruction in shooting.

Those guys are easy to spot, because they're shooting at the 25 yard line with a rifle nearly long enough to make muzzle contact.