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Topics in University Security: Lockdown 101

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by chieftain, Apr 16, 2008.

  1. chieftain

    chieftain Participating Member

    Dec 25, 2002
    The Free State of Arizona
    It appears there will be additional security, a few more of them armed, to show up after the next mass murder on campus.

    These idiots refuse to accept the ONLY possible solution. Legally armed adults, under existing CCW laws. It has already worked in this country, several times, and Israel has found it successful too.

    It is already being done in Utah university's. No accidental shootings, no violent firefights.

    It is a shame that these elitists will not trust the folks. But I don't think they ever will, in this country again.

    It makes me wonder, how many more must die?

    Go figure.


  2. 209

    209 Member

    Jun 16, 2007
    Northeastern US
    That was a stupid exercise. It's been discussed. However, the point of the article does have merit.

    I just participated in a study involving critical incidents at a university. The administration is coming to the realization that response time by "the professionals" is frequently longer than most incidents last. What they are going to do with that knowledge isn't clear.

    They are also becoming aware that "You can't lock down a college campus". You can "lock down buildings", but not a campus. And in our case, they can't even lock down buildings in a timely manner.

    They also became aware that it takes people, training and equipment to be prepared. Those things all boil down to the most important resource of all- money. They figured this out at the last meeting which was Monday. Funny, because two weeks ago, they cut the PD by three positions, limited the training funds and cut the equipment budget. :rolleyes:

    But, one thing I didn't hear anyone mention was changing the policy that makes the campus a "gun-free zone".
  3. GEM

    GEM Senior Member

    Apr 11, 2004
    The endless replaying comment reinforces what was said before. Such displays just vicariously reinforce the fantasies of the next shooter.

    Most plans, as seen in the post by ZeSpectre, are based on liability control and the health of the corporate entity of the university. They have very little to do with the individual health of victims.
  4. MiddleAgedKen

    MiddleAgedKen Member

    Nov 1, 2007
    Fairview Park, OH
    That op-ed is one of a series being posted at NYT today. David Codrea of The War on Guns is a contributor, and has raised the very issue raised here.

    And GEM, you nailed it in one.
  5. Dienekes

    Dienekes Participating Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Anything other than recognizing that now and then people will succeed in committing evil acts. Short of putting everyone in separate cages, that possibility will always exist.

    But college always was a never-never land anyway. Still is.

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