total noob question re: garands

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I keep reading about people just dying to get there hands on a garand and they are willing to take a well used and looks to be beat up stocks for $700+?

What is so special about these rifles? Please edjucate me why such a high demand for these rifles.

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History History History!!!

As a big history buff and holder of a Curio & Relic license the Garand is at the top of my list. It's one of the first mass-issue semi automatic rifles, and it helped carry our troops to victory in WWII.

damm now I sound like R. Lee Ermey :D
 
They used to be much more affordable, but in the past decade the prices have gone up and up. Now that CMP's supply has all but dried up, expect that trend to continue.

There are some scarce makers, but for the most part they're not very rare. The cost is a reflection of their role in American history and the attention they've received in countless Hollywood films.
 
I'd say the historical aspect as well, but once you shoot one you will understand.

powpowpowpowpowpowpowpowping!
 
I like the platform, but it's not my choice for a 30 caliber battle rifle. I'll take a FAL or H&K91 clone, thanks. I like a pistol grip on my battle rifle :) There's no less history behind them, it's just not U.S. history!
 
When I was an Adviser to a Viet Namese infantry unit, I was issued an M2 carbine -- which got wrapped around a tree. The Viet Namese Binh Shi's were issued M1 Garands -- so I bummed one off them and carried it from then on. The M1 is the rifle I want if I have to fight and can't get an M14.
 
I find great satisfaction in handling a well built firearm. The M1 Garand is a quality rifle. The closer you get to a new Garand the more you can appreciate the excellent fit and fine machining. The receiver is a forging, all major parts are quality steel,most parts were forgings, even the stampings are precise. The stock is very comfortable, the sights are second to none.

Overall it has the feel of something that has been there, and can take it again.

I had the chance to talk with a number of WWII and Korean war vets. Their general comment was that the Garand was reliable. It might have been dirty, dinged, but it went bang. It was used in every climatic condition in the world, from the Artic to the Tropics and no one ever tossed their Garand away to pick up an enemy rifle. As has been seen when Soldiers have junked an AR for a AK.

Great rifle. Millions of satisfied users. Punched many a round hole in a square head. Historical milestone. Aquitted itself well. Everybody needs at least one :D
 
The Garand is actually a very pleasant rifle to shoot. My 30'06 bolt guns tend to beat me to death, but the Garand is smooth, and a real pleasure to fire.

It's also a well balanced rifle, and feels good in the hand.

Also, the firepower of eight 30'06 rounds rapidly pounding into downrange targets (or cinderblocks) is pretty amazing to behold.

And finally, you gotta love the Garand for epitomizing the description of a "well oiled machine".

...and yeah...the ping...


bluedsteel
 
They are very well made guns. Handle an AK or a Mosin Nagant then handle a Garand, and the difference will be obvious.

If you're at all interested in WWII history, its a must have. If you aren't, watch Band of Brothers, Saving Private Ryan and The Longest Day and you will be.

It has the best sights of any military issue gun ever made and is quite accurate

Walnut and Parkerized steel are a whole lot cooler than Aluminum and plastic.

You can't get "bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang ping" anywhere else.

.223 an 7.62x39 are girlie-man rounds compared to .30-06.

And finally, you gotta love the Garand for epitomizing the description of a "well oiled machine".
But in the case of the Garand, its a well greased machine. :) Never use oil in your M1.
 
IMHO, i cant think of a more gorgeous rifle then the M1. The history behind them alone. They are comfortable to shoot, well balanced, and of course......cant forget the PING. Can't go wrong.
 
A local gunstore has one for around $829. The stock only has one major ding, there's no rust or pits on any of the metal components and from what I could tell, the bore was still in very good condition. I had never handled one before that and was shocked at the heft, I want it!!! Would that be a good deal? Also, would anyone use this as a hunting rifle?
 
THere are milsurps (mosins, lee-enfields, Mausers, etc.) and then there is the M1 Garand. All other rifles from WWII don't compare to this one: the triggers are heavy, the sights are junk, or in the case of the Lee-enfield, they're bolt-action.
 
Garands are fine for hunting! You can get five round clips if your State has that limit. $839 could be a bit high or it could be a steal, its impossible to tell without more info (serial number range, manufacturer, barrel date, stock markings, etc.).


M-1
©By R.A.Gannon

Do you wonder why that rifle
Is hanging in my den?
You know I rarely take it down
But I touch it now and then.
It’s rather slow and heavy
By standards of today
But not too many years ago
It swept the rest away.
It’s held its own in battles
Through snow, or rain, or sun
And I had one just like it,
This treasured old M-1.
It went ashore at Bougainville
In Nineteen Forty-Three.
It stormed the beach at Tarawa
Through a bullet-riddled sea.
Saipan knew its strident bark,
Kwajelein, its sting.
The rocky caves of Peleliu
Resounded with its ring.
It climbed the hill on Iwo
With men who wouldn’t stop
And left our nation’s banner
Flying on the top.
It poked its nose in Pusan,
Screamed an angry roar
And took the First Division
From Chosin Reservoir.
Well, time moves on
And things improve
With rifles and with men,
And that is why the two of us
Are sitting in my den.
But sometimes on a winter night,
While thinking of my Corps,
I know that if the bugle blew
We’d be a team once more.
 
pick one up, they just feel right. They are a bit heavy but a good quality sling goes a long way when you are carrying one in the field. oh ya, and the PING
 
Last Saturday was the first time I've seen a Garand in action at the range.

I don't like the rifle because of its obsolete design but it was just so damn bad ass!

BOOM! There goes the shell case spinning wildly in the air! Again, BOOM, PIIIINNNNNNNG!!!!!!! :what:

Coolest sound ever.
 
If you do decide to take it hunting, you'll have to use handloads. The burn rate of the powders used for todays commercial ammo create pressures that are too high for the Garand's gas system.
 
Wish I could claim to author this sentiment. I get misty-eyed, every time I read it.

Why a garand?

It satisfies the eyes. It looks warm, robust, serious, and capable. It looks like victory, freedom and liberation. It looks friendly. It does not look evil. It does not look delicate. It does not look cheap.

It satisfies the ears. The clocklike schnick when you pull the bolt back. The warning click as you shove home another 8 round clip. The massive solid slam as the bolt rams another round into the chamber. The deep throated bark of the muzzle as you fire away. The final Ka-Ting as the empty clip is ejected. The horrifying scream of agony as the guy four benches down learns never to hesitate when removing his thumb from a freshly loaded clip.

It satisfies the touch. The warm sculpted wood. The curve of the stock. The curl of the bolt lug. The take-up of the trigger. The robust, solid, yet unsharp push of the kick.

It satisfies the soul. It is the defender of liberty. It is the champion of victory. It is the guarantor of freedom.

It will not be used to rob banks. No terrorist will unleash it on a crowd of unarmed victims. No gangster will use it to shoot little girls while missing his imagined gangster enemies.

It is the good guy's weapon. It is just the ticket to liberate a country. It opens the doors of concentration camps. It saves people from tyranny. It topples dictators. It squashes fascists. It pushes communists behind their walls. It defends the homeland. It provides for the common defense. It is necessary for the security of a free state. It brings joy to women and children as they fire it. It strikes fear in the hearts of those that oppose freedom. It makes friends at the shooting range. It reminds us of the cost of freedom. Its lavish expense is appropriately justified.

It is your duty as an American to own one. Get one now. Buy ammo. Use it. Never mind the price, find the best one you can. You have no excuse.
The time is now. Be careful with your thumb!
 
69nogo,

Everything that's been said before.... plus....

I've been a shooter all my life of 51 years, with a wide variety of rifles and handguns.... Picked up my first M1 seven years ago. After the first 10 minutes my only comment was, "BABY.... where you BEEN all my life??"

Since then I've fired probably more ammo than all the previous 44 years combined.... and 95% of that has been in the M1.

You cannot know what's so special about an M1 until you shoot one yourself. Go do it......

Best regards,
Swampy

Garands forever
 
I have only had a Garand since November and I love it. Only problem is it's crocodile tendency to eat my thumb. I'm on a slow and cautious learning curve loading it. The Band-Aid industry has got to love this gun too.
 
As far as the new Garands being made, do these have the same pressure limits as the real ones? Like the Springfield armory ones being made? Can they use commercial ammo? Not that I would ever spend 1400 or whatever it is for an SA M1
 
As far as the new Garands being made, do these have the same pressure limits as the real ones?

Yes.

Made from old USGI, Danish, and Italian M1 parts that have been refinished to look new.

Same parts... same restrictions on ammo.

Best regards,
Swampy

Garands forever
 
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