US made HK 416/417s incoming!

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Found this on another forum:

HK has signed an agreement with Wilcox Industries to produce HK 416, 417, and HK45 State side for US consumptions.

Not sure exact what components within those weapon Wilcox systems will manufacture in house or sub out, but for certain that Wilcox will produce those guns under license for HK.

Not to get too happy yet, this does not mean the 416, 417 nor the HK45 will automatically become available to the US civilian market, there is no words on what HK will be doing with those US produced weapons. but at least this is a start. I believe this is just for HK to further support the US. LE and Mil market.

Good news indeed that those great weapon systems will be state side.

We should be hearing an official HK news release within the next couple of weeks.

www.wilcoxind.com/
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Here's what Wilcox says about itself on its website:
Wilcox is an industry leader in the design and manufacture of high quality tactical equipment for use by Special Operations units within the United States.

With knowledge gained by working with the US Military, Wilcox has engineered a product line that provides state and local law enforcement agencies with equipment that affords a significant tactical advantage.

These and other specialized products are currently being supplied by Wilcox under contract with the U.S. Military, Federal, and other local governmental agencies.
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That doesn't sound to me like a company that has any interest in producing for the civilian market.
 
Not to mention that since the early 90s, HK has pretty much stopped caring about selling to civies.

They even stopped selling the SL-8 in the US (its still sold in Europe) when people started to make them look like G36s.
 
If they will sell to LE, significant amounts of product should hit the civilian market. Note that it is quite easy to obtain Colt LE models for example.

LMT's website has similar wording, yet they still sell to dealers who they know are selling to civilians as well.

If they are produced domestically, and sold to civilian law enforcement, I think they would have a hard time keeping them out of private citizens' hands. I guess we'll see.
 
"They even stopped selling the SL-8 in the US (its still sold in Europe) when people started to make them look like G36s."

Since when? The SL8 being made again as far as I know. They even changed the stock from grey to black.
 
If Wilcox Industries is the one located in NH, then no, they will not be selling to the retail market.

There was an article in the Portsmouth paper about the new gun manufacturer, number 3 in NH. The owner explicitly stated that the guns are being built on contract basis for HK.

So, no soup for you. Next!
 
Guns are only for properly constituted government entities and their thugs, er, I mean agents.

I cannot for the life of me understand why HK has adopted this policy. bevause the US government isn't buying much, and no big military contracts have appeared. HK has poured a bunch of money on small arms development that have gone nowhere (can you say XM8? OICW)

At least FN got a clue, and offer their PS90 and FS2000, shotguns and tactical bolt rifles for civilian sale.

I have been told by HK reps on several occasions that they will never sell their rifles to civilians. One told me that civilians had no business owning them.

Which is why I don't own anything HK.
 
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Nothing new. Ruger has been anti-gun since 1989. "No honest man has a need for a magazine capacity over 15 rounds" is what I believe Bill Ruger Sr. is quoted as saying.:fire:
 
Geeze, can the poor horse rest in peace!

Now regarding the 416, everyone's gtting all giddy over this artciale and reading into it but I wonder how many of these same peole are actually gonna drop the $2000 minimum on one if they were to ecome available.
 
really? i thought it fixed alot of the problems, at least thats what they say.
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It's heavier than a standard M4 and the one's I've handled and dealt with seem to group less tightly than a direct impingement M4 with the same barrel length. It will supposedly run longer without cleaning, but if I can get around 5000 rounds through an M4 before gunk starts causing stoppages, I don't see that it makes much difference.

The one place they really shine is using 416s with suppressors, but that's not a requirement most units have.
 
In terms of accuracy, I'd stay with the Stoner system. Fewer moving parts means more consistent harmonics. The gas piston system of the HK (more similar to the SKS than AK) works very well and is a proven system, but it has more parts rattling around in it. Would I not buy a HK416 upper if I had a chance? Nope. Of course I'd buy one. When does Stag Arms come out with a southpaw version?
 
All the while they introduced the USP line of pistols, designed specifically for the American shooter. Don't forget, they imported many Mk23's which are super cool, military guns. Why? Because they can import them.
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Recognizing that the US gun market is the single biggest venue for pistol sales on the planet and marketing accordingly does not make HK notably pro-civilian gun ownership.

As for the Mark 23 . . . its military career was a flop. I'm pretty sure HK is just cutting their losses trying to market them to mall ninjas.
 
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