Visiting California, Las Vegas

[hgmike]

I'm flying to California with my handgun to visit my sister's family and to do some outdoor range shooting with friends. I will be driving to Las Vegas from California and would like to bring my gun. If the hotel does not allow firearms to be stored there, is it legal to keep it stored in my vehicle following the Interstate Transportation of Firearms? I do not like the idea of storing my gun in my vehicle but I don't know if my sister's family will allow me to leave it there.

What do you all think?

 

[mbogo]

I think the hotel does not need to know that you are keeping a firearm in your room safe.

mbogo

 

[Jeff F]

You do not need to tell the hotel you have a sidearm. I do know that Clark county and North Las Vegas have their own laws on firearms in vehicles so beware and do some research. I would not leave a sidearm in my room when I was not there.

 

[zhyla]

Transportation: unloaded, locked container (glove box does NOT count).

The hotel doesn't care. There is no law against having weapons in your temporary residence and I've never seen a sign anywhere here regarding guns.

 

[mljdeckard]

If you ASK them, they will tell you no. If it is a casino, they will ask you to hand it over to the security desk. But it's not illegal, they have overly cautious policies.

 

[leadcounsel]

Be careful you follow all state and local regulations on things like magazine capacity. I believe some or all of California prohibit 11 round and greater magazines and it's a serious offense.

 

[NavyLCDR]

I do know that Clark county and North Las Vegas have their own laws on firearms in vehicles

You are mistaken Jeff. They have their own laws regarding handgun registration which only applies to persons who have been a resident of Clark County for greater than 60 days. Laws regarding possession, transportation and carrying firearms are preempted and trumped by state law in Nevada.

See NRS 268.418
http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-268.html#NRS268Sec418

and NRS 244.364
http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-244.html#NRS244Sec364

To the OP:
No magazines over 10 rounds capacity in California. Unloaded gun and ammo locked in a case is legal. It's none of the hotels' business whether you have firearms or not in your luggage. I usually open carry, including checking in to hotels, and have never had a problem. (Actually, there is no legal requirement to lock up the ammo in California or Nevada.)

 

[Ramman911]

I have worked in 5 star hotels for years. They do not need to know what you are putting into the safe. You will be the only one opening it up while in your room. (unless it malfunctions/battery goes dead in lock) then security will open it up, but even then it's none of their business.

 

[Quiet]

For CA...
Transport the handgun unloaded and in a locked container.
Do not bring any large capacity (11+ round) magazines to CA. It's a felony to do so.
Under CA laws, it is legal to have a loaded firearm in your hotel/motel room.

For NV...
Transport the handgun unloaded and in a locked container or loaded and unconcealed in a holster (open carry) or loaded in the vehicle's glove/utility compartment.
As long as you don't scare the tourists, casinos/hotels don't care if you store firearms in your room and/or carry them through the casino/hotel. Would advise having them in a container to not draw attention. When carried in a container, the firearm needs to be unloaded and the container locked in order to not be carrying concealed illegally (valid CCW permit is exempt from this).

 

[NavyLCDR]

For CA...
Transport the handgun unloaded and in a locked container.
Do not bring any STANDARD capacity (11+ round) magazines to CA. It's a felony to do so.
Under CA laws, it is legal to have a loaded firearm in your hotel/motel room.

I corrected your California reference... I hope you don't mind

 

[Librarian]

I corrected your California reference... I hope you don't mind

I mind.

California uses a legal definition of 11 or more for "large-capacity". It's stupid, but at least it's clear.

What's standard capacity for a Sig 220 Compact? 6+1
How about a vanilla JMB 1911? 7+1
Beretta 8045 compact? 8+1

"Standard" is firearm-dependent.

 

[NavyLCDR]

Well, excuuuuuuse me. And it's NOT clear to call them high capacity magazines because they hold over 10 rounds, because a standard capacity magazine for a Taurus PT-92 is 17 rounds. And a standard capacity magazine for a Kel-Tec PMR-30 is 30 rounds!

 

[Quiet]

Well, excuuuuuuse me. And it's NOT clear to call them high capacity magazines because they hold over 10 rounds, because a standard capacity magazine for a Taurus PT-92 is 17 rounds. And a standard capacity magazine for a Kel-Tec PMR-30 is 30 rounds!

Whereas, the term "large capacity magazine" is defined by state law [PC 12020(c)(25)] and when some one inquires about what is or is not legal, would it not be prudent to use the correct legal term?




CA Penal Code 12020
(c)(25) As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
(B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.

 

[NavyLCDR]

It would be best to say that California has this stupid law that prohibits magazines over 10 rounds capacity and end it there. Outside of California, there are thousands of magazines of standard capacity that are over 10 rounds and someone not familiar with California's crazy laws may take the term large capacity to mean anything larger than what their gun came with, where 17 or 30 rounds may be standard.

"large capacity" is a term completely made up by the anti-gun politicians when used to define a magazine over 10 rounds and has no basis in reality whatsoever.

 

[Librarian]

"large capacity" is a term completely made up by the anti-gun politicians when used to define a magazine over 10 rounds and has no basis in reality whatsoever.

Absolutely correct - except to the extent that, being legal and all, it's enforceable to the tune of a year in jail for a violation - seems awfully real in that light.

California calls them "large-capacity", and defines them as "more than 10 rounds".

So, using the legal definition is the way to stay out of trouble - using 'high capacity', 'standard capacity' or anything else just adds a layer of confusion.

Don't take a call for precision and accuracy as evidence of 'approval' or, as some have suggested, 'accepting the anti-gunner's propaganda'. It's neither.

 

[Harley Quinn]

Many may not approve of the various laws on the books in many locations, but the State has that right

Why the confusion long ago and allowing all States to have them, now of course they can be more constricting than the Feds, some have attempted to be less (constricting) but if the Feds decide they want to enforce they will

Come on in, step right up, be ready to serve the time

Regards