Wal-Mart...a public gathering?

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"I began in 1971 and retired in 1996."

Well, I was not yet in grade school in 1971 :)


But the last part of your stint overlaps with mine by more than a half dozen years.

And yes, I had to answer all those "I saw him hide it under his shirt" complaints, too. ;)


Sounds like we do not really disagree . . . .
 
This is a very interesting thread. I have always worried about leaving my handgun in the car while out shopping. We never leave home without it. So I decided to look into a nice concealable holster just so I would not have to worry about someone breaking into my truck. My wife and I have carry permits for many years, but haven't carried them into stores or malls. She ask me this same question about walking into wal-mart with her Kel tec 32 in her purse "what would happen". I told her nothing is was OK, now after reading this I wonder if I am wrong?
 
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Any information I have is solely my opinion...But what you do with a CCW depends upon the laws where you carry. I have read recently that certain Wal*Marts have "posted" their stores as no carry zones. That wouldn't seem to have any force of law...they could tell you to leave and not come back, I suppose. One jewelry store here where I live has posted their premises and I wouldn't go there on a bet, but the Wally*World here is gun friendly so far.
 
Any information I have is solely my opinion...But what you do with a CCW depends upon the laws where you carry. I have read recently that certain Wal*Marts have "posted" their stores as no carry zones. That wouldn't seem to have any force of law...they could tell you to leave and not come back, I suppose. One jewelry store here where I live has posted their premises and I wouldn't go there on a bet, but the Wally*World here is gun friendly so far.
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Whether a "no guns allowed" posting has the power of law depends on the laws of the state. Since we are talking about Georgia, this sign has no power of law. There is no law in Georgia that give effect to such a posting. At worst, you would be guilty of trespassing if you refused to leave after being asked.

My neighbor state of South Carolina has a law that gives such postings the power of law - making it a felony, but the posting has to conform with the wording and with the posting locations as given in the law.

Check the laws in your state to see if "no guns" postings has any power or if they are just "feel good" postings put out by business owners.
 
Stolen from another forum:


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Originally posted by The Pontificator
the exact same letter Grassroots South Carolina used for 6 years to get signs down in stores here.

http://www.tennesseefirearms.com/la...mart-reply1.asp
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EMAIL FROM TFA MEMBER:

Date: Monday, September 14, 1998 7:25 PM
Subject: Fwd: Wal-Mart Handgun Carry Policy

Dear TFA,
I wrote to Wal-Mart and asked what policy, if any, their company had
regarding the lawful carry of concealed handguns in their stores by
holders of Tennessee Handgun Carry Permits. I also told them that I
would be glad to share their response with the TFA so that through your newsletters and webpage you could share that information with permit holders statewide. I was pleased to get their answer affirming the right to carry in their stores. I have attached their response below. Their only concern was that a concealed weapon be concealed. Of course, as you point out on your page, it also is true that Tennessee law forbids carry in stores that sell alcohol.


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REPLY FROM WALMART:
From: Letters to the President [email protected]
To: [deleted]
Date: Monday, September 14, 1998 3:03 PM

Thank you for contacting Wal-Mart regarding our concealed handgun policy. Wal-mart was founded by Sam Walton on three principles: Strive for Excellence, Service to our Customers, and Respect for the Individual. It is that respect for the individual that led us to create the current policy pertaining to concealed handguns.

The following is our policy: if a Wal-mart customer has been aearded a concealed handgun license by the state government, Wal-Mart will follow the direction of the state. However, if at anytime while on Wal-Mart property, that customer's concealed weapon becomes visible to Wal-Mart associates or customers, Wal-Mart reserves the right to ask the customer to either reposition the weapon so that it will not be visible, to remove the weapon completely or to leave Wal-Mart property.

With the exception of law enforcement personnel, Wal-Mart does not allow any exposed weapons to be worn or carried in public view on Wal-mart property or in Wal-Mart stores. Customers other than low enforcement personnell wearing or carring a weapon in an exposed manner will be asked to leave the property immediately.

We appreciate your concern and trust that this has addressed your concerns regarding this issue.






END QUOTE
 
This still isn't over. Apparently the charge is still sticking on this guy.

http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=566256

Crumbles said:
So I track down the case number, and call the police department. They tell me that the charge stuck, and that the man is currently out on bond. I ask the officer "So the charge wasn't dropped?" and she says, "Why would it be?" And I say: "I just didn't consider or realize that Walmart would be a public gathering." She said: "Oh yes sir, anywhere there are people is considered that."

I started to argue a little bit with her on it, and she just got flustered and said: "Look, here are the two detectives numbers, you can call them and talk to them about it."

So, now I have their numbers. I really want to call and ask them what the deal is, but I don't really know what I should say on their voicemails.
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And also this:
Crumbles said:
I thought the exact same thing you did. Until I called the police department and asked them what happened. I even have the case number for ya.

Case #:
2006-05-0326

I spoke with the two arresting officers. They said exactly what the report says, and they consider Walmart a "public gathering." I almost threw up when I heard it.

Go ahead, call them yourselves.

detective office
770.254.2355

Bobby Strozier x124
Brent Blankenship x125
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So if you're standing on the street corner all by yourself obeying every law on the planet just waiting for the light to change to cross the street and another person strolls up to do the same you're now a criminal? Nice one. Fits right in with their assinine travel laws.
 
I think that might be the police report number. When I called the station, I gave them that number, and they were able to look it up from that.

This is an exact quote of what my source for the incident called it:

I found the case number of the incident report you requested. It is 2006-05-0326.
 
Damn, this news spawned all over the freaking internet! It's on three seperate forums now!
 
Either of these two things could be true. However, I believe if the officers really felt he was going for his gun, Mr. Weida would likely be riddled with bullets now, and either dead or in the Newnan Hospital ICU.
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Not if two other things had been true:

1. He really had been going for his gun, and
2. He was a fast-draw-good-shot sort of fellow.

At any rate, Walmart is NOT a public gathering, under any stretch of the term. No way. And for anyone--even a flaming leftist--to claim otherwise is insanity.
 
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