The P1 I was looking at appeared new, but it is probably surplus re-furbished as well. I will have to check it out again. Who knows, I might buy it if I am having a weak moment. As it is an old design, I would only shoot hardball through it, and only for fun and plinking. I have a G19 for defense!
And yes Tamara and Wildalaska, I agree, that the word "Kraut" to refer to our German friends is best left to odd anacronisms like "Hogan's Heroes". I can't believe they still re-run that POS TV show. Makes you wonder how they could make such a flipant tasteless WWII comedy, with no ironic point to the humor (unlike "Stalag 17"- which had a point), other than selling commercials. The sixties, what a weird time.
Now "Combat", that was a great show, as they always tried to show the human side of WWII on both sides. Hey, how come they always made the little guy, Kirby, haul the BAR???? Cause they could.