BluesBear
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Stokes, why do you say the hammer isn't original?
Want to see a really old 1911?
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The hammer spur’s configuration is wrong for a pistol of this age. The original one had a sharper edge on the bottom rear part of the spur. The manual safety could be original, but I can’t tell from the photographs. The grips are WW-2 period USGI plastic, but correct replacements will be easy to find. The original magazine had a lanyard loop in the base. The mainspring housing should be flat and uncheckered. There should be a “rampant colt†inside of a circle, stamped on the left side of the slide behind the serrations.
All and all, you have a fine example of an early Colt. I suspect it was shipped sometime during September, 1912. I would suggest that you replace the recoil, firing pin and mainsprings before you shoot it.
All and all, you have a fine example of an early Colt. I suspect it was shipped sometime during September, 1912. I would suggest that you replace the recoil, firing pin and mainsprings before you shoot it.
1911Tuner
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Old Colt
You are getting sleeeepyyyyy...You hear only the sound of my voiiiiiice...
You hear and you obeyyyyy....Send the pistol to meeeee...You muuuuuust obeyyyy....Send it todayyyyy...You are in my powwwwerrrrrr...Youuuu
cannot resisssssst....
SvengaliTuner
You are getting sleeeepyyyyy...You hear only the sound of my voiiiiiice...
You hear and you obeyyyyy....Send the pistol to meeeee...You muuuuuust obeyyyy....Send it todayyyyy...You are in my powwwwerrrrrr...Youuuu
cannot resisssssst....
SvengaliTuner
MaterDei
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Since Stokes is not sure whether he got a good deal or not, how about some of the 1911 experts appraise it based on the pics.
I, for one, have no idea the value of old 1911s, though I sure would like to own one.
How about it experts, what do you guys think it's worth???
I, for one, have no idea the value of old 1911s, though I sure would like to own one.
How about it experts, what do you guys think it's worth???
cerberus
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Not Military
I don't think it was a military 1911 My guess it's worth about $300 to $350
I don't think it was a military 1911 My guess it's worth about $300 to $350
Marshall
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I hope your real estate deal goes through. Remember, it took the old man three trips to gun shows to sell it. You might have to take a good hit to sell it quickly. I hope you don't have to, it's a nice looking gun!
Stokes
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Well,
It really didn't get much attention at the shows, as he kept it under his table, only showing a few guys. He had a $3000 price tag on it, hoping to find someone that knew enough that they were interested, but not enough to know better.
Right now, it's looking like I won't have to sell it, as I've got a few other guns sold. Unless something comes up in my development, I'll be hanging onto it. I'm definately not in firesale mode. I don't know when I'll get a chance to send it off to Turnbull, or even if I will, but I'd kinda like to. This thing is rough enough that "originality" probably just doesn't matter anymore. Having this thing look good would make me happy.
It really didn't get much attention at the shows, as he kept it under his table, only showing a few guys. He had a $3000 price tag on it, hoping to find someone that knew enough that they were interested, but not enough to know better.
Right now, it's looking like I won't have to sell it, as I've got a few other guns sold. Unless something comes up in my development, I'll be hanging onto it. I'm definately not in firesale mode. I don't know when I'll get a chance to send it off to Turnbull, or even if I will, but I'd kinda like to. This thing is rough enough that "originality" probably just doesn't matter anymore. Having this thing look good would make me happy.
BluesBear
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Hmmm.
Even the commercial models had the lanyard ring magazine?
Even the commercial models had the lanyard ring magazine?
bwahahahaha! Stokes
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I have a military in the 10,2XX range, shipped Nov. 1, 1912. Only 12 left the factory in 1911, and 17,250 in 1912. It has an old reblue, and the barrel, slide stop, and stocks were not original. Otherwise it is correct, down to the "invisible" semicircular rear sight notch and thin blade front sight.
The trigger weighs in at 7 pounds 9 ounces, and at 15 yds it shoots 4-6" high.
A couple of years back, after continuing frustration with a Glock 17 that obviously hated me, I pulled out this old horse pistol and shot it alongside the Glock for comparison. Holdoff and all, I got 12 hits out of 14 shots on the steel plates I had been having so much trouble with using the Glock.
Pike Bishop would understand.
The Glock is "history" because I sold it off not long afterward. (Damn plastic guns...)
The old Colt really *is* history and stays with me.
If I suddenly develop a bad case of affluence I might get a quote from Turnbull--although he's pricey.
The trigger weighs in at 7 pounds 9 ounces, and at 15 yds it shoots 4-6" high.
A couple of years back, after continuing frustration with a Glock 17 that obviously hated me, I pulled out this old horse pistol and shot it alongside the Glock for comparison. Holdoff and all, I got 12 hits out of 14 shots on the steel plates I had been having so much trouble with using the Glock.
Pike Bishop would understand.
The Glock is "history" because I sold it off not long afterward. (Damn plastic guns...)
The old Colt really *is* history and stays with me.
If I suddenly develop a bad case of affluence I might get a quote from Turnbull--although he's pricey.
Ashendale
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Wow! Beautiful! Thanks for sharing.
Ian
(keep it original)
Ian
(keep it original)
ZekeLuvs1911
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Stokes,
I personally would not send it in to Turnabull for a refinish as this would reduce the value of the pistol. If you could find original production parts for this pistol, it could really become a nice collectible piece. Any refinishing will remove the value. I own a 1944 Colt 1911A1 that is all original with the finish about 90-95%. I had it appraised at about $1400.00. Not bad for a 60 yr old pistol.
I personally would not send it in to Turnabull for a refinish as this would reduce the value of the pistol. If you could find original production parts for this pistol, it could really become a nice collectible piece. Any refinishing will remove the value. I own a 1944 Colt 1911A1 that is all original with the finish about 90-95%. I had it appraised at about $1400.00. Not bad for a 60 yr old pistol.
emc
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This nice older 1911 got me thinking. I have a 1918 vintage military issue of Colt manufacture with the parkerized finish. At some point, the arsenal refurbished it and replaced the grips with plastic ones. For WWI issue, did the originals have checkered wooden grips with the diamonds around the grip screws?
Thanks,
emc
Thanks,
emc
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