Wanting to get in the "good long range deer gun" thing..kinda cheap.

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Everyone has their favorites, but there are only 2 guns I won't recommend under any circumstaces. One is the Mossberg, the other is the Remington 710/770 series.

It is not that they are going to blow up on you or anything, but there are MUCH better rifles for about the same money or less. On a tight budget look at the Marlin XL-7 or Stevens 200. Both are around $330 and are twice as good as the Mossberg.

Remington has been offering their ADL versions again for as little as $350 in blue and $470 in stainless.

At around $400 the Weatherby or Howa rifles are very good choices.

Buying used is never a bad choice. Very few centerfire rifles are shot enough to hurt them. You can often buy a used top of the line rifle for about what a cheap budget rifle will cost you new.
 
The ATR and 4x4 are just so darn ugly and cheaply built. The XL7 $300-$325 is a MUCH better choice IMHO. Walmart Savage combo for $389 is even better. But do yourself a favor. Save a few extra bucks and try to find a deal on a Tikka T3, I found my T3 Stainless new for just over $400 and after owning that level of rifle the sight of an 4x4 will make you gag just a little bit. Night and day difference no kidding, The only rifles I ever regreted buying were the super el cheepos. They all tend to rust in a matter of days, they are usualy not as good on the range, and the egronomics are crap. A quality rifle is WELL worth a couple extra weeks of saveing.
 
Rem 700 CDL, not the cheapest to buy, but worth every penny. as for caliber that depends on the distance,terrain and your ability to put the shot where you need it. I took a Doe last year with my 700 in .243 win with a 200 yard head shot. I could not count how many deer i have killed with a 30-06 over the past 30 + years. getting older and don't want the recoil anymore so i am going smaller in caliber
 
I'm going to try to make this purchase around September.

I'm a HUGE Weatherby lover, but I am unaware of being able to find a Vanguard sporter with wood stock for $400-$500.

Oh, and WOOD FURNITURE is a REQUIREMENT.

So, please send me suggestions with that in mind. I'm glad you folks steered me away from the Mossberg. I guess they make good, functional shotguns but have leave a lot to desire in the rifle department eh?

Also.. I don't know where to find USED guns at a good price.. such as the Weatherby for example (maybe a favored one)...

So.. wood stock/furniture at least a 3-4 shot capacity.. bolt action. ..and please include places to find them.

Keep it coming, thanks!
 
Savage or Stevens for out of the box accuracy and great value. If you can find one for cheap with a synthetic stock you can always swap it out for a wood one. You can even get either of them in .300 Win Mag and 7mm Mag to really reach out there.
 
That savage looks like a great gun.. and a bit cheaper than a Weatherby vanguard.

Wonder if I can get a nicer looking stock?


At any rate, that is a great looking gun, and I have heard nothing bad about Savage.
Are they made in USA?
 
You ain't gonna find a good rifle with a walnut stock "kinda cheap". You can get a lot of good accrate rifles with a plastic sock for $400 and under. And you can get some crappy rifles with cheap wood stocks kinda cheap.

If you insist on a real walnut stock a Ruger Hawkeye at around $600-$650 is about as good as you are going to do on a quality gun. If money is not an a concern the new Winchesters are the best rifles being made at this time and the way I'd go if I wanted a quality wood stocked rifle, with Ruger my 2nd choice.

Used is a crap shoot. Lots of good used guns, but finding a good one at a bargain price can be a challenge. They are out there and I find bargains at times. But never when I'm looking for them. Hang around gunshops and gunshows long enough and you find great buys.
 
Good cheap rifle

You must be patient and shop, shop, shop. Pawn shops, gun dealers (good luck) gun shows, shooting clubs and shooting ranges are good places to look for what you want. I agree with the guy that said good wood stocks are expensive. One of the things you might consider is a sporterized version of some of the military rifles. My dad had a sporterized springfield 03 that was incredibely accurate. Cannot remember if it was a two groove or four groove barrel, one of them is more accurate. Some of these older guns have fajen stocks which were a good tradeoff between very highly figured walnut and nicely figured walnut. Also, consider a good shooter with a stock that can be refinished.
 
"Long range" and "cheap" typically don't go together. Particularly when it comes to shooting at flesh.
 
$400 to $500 and a quality wood stock is kinda tough. For about $100 over than range you can get a Tikka 3 hunter with a nice wood stock. You can get it in a number of calibers and they are very accurate.
 
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