stinger 327
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Thanks guys..We can add Georgia and Nevada as good states.
Only kinda sorta.I kinda figured Tennessee would definitely be one of the friendly states?
I'm not saying Illinois is anywhere near the top 5 best states, but the penalty for 1st and 2nd offenses of carrying in a prohibited place is $150, not near as bad as Tennessee.Only kinda sorta.
Dont forget, just a little "circle/slash" decal is a legal NO GUNS sign, with the force of law. Class C misdemeanor and a $500 fine for passing one while carrying. You need a HCP for any kind of carry; concealed, open, in your car. You can carry in a national or state park but not in most local ones. In Nashville, you can carry at Radnor Lake or Bicentennial Mall, but not at Centennial Park or on a Greenway. So much for preemption.
Our laws are better than some and worse than others.
Texas has a few miles to go before it makes the top ten, maybe even the top 20. The next gov will probably be a determining factor there.I'd say the first three are Arizona, Alaska and Texas. After that it's a bit of a toss up.
I belive Texas has a great cost of living factor. I am not surprised that California is the worst state in anti-gun laws.Oldandslow, I have to disagree with you in your ranking of Illinois as #2 , in post 16 after California as a worst state and Hawaii as behind Illinois.
This year Illinois passed concealed carry shall issue legislation and LTCs will probably be issued starting early next year. Right now non-residents can carry a loaded concealed handgun in their car if they have a LTC from their state. There is a provision for issue of non-resident LTC in Illinois. You can transport an unloaded handgun encased in your vehicle passenger compartment with a loaded magazine in the same case. The vehicle console has been ruled by the Illinois supreme court as a case. You can transport on your person a handgun to any place not a restricted area, called fannypack or container transport and "6 seconds to safety". No silliness like being restricted to transporting to a range, gun smith or gun shop or hunting area. Bars and restaurants serving alcohol are restricted areas for transport, but for those with an Illinois LTC carry is permitted in restaurants that serve alcohol if over 50% of revenue is from food. Compare Illinois to California, New jersey, Maryland and Hawaii and I don't think we are close to the top 5 worst. We also have good self defense law.
I'd also like to add that Illinois is number 9 on the Brady Bunch's list after Rhode Island, Maryland, Hawaii, Connecticut, N.Y., Massachusetts, N.J. and California. Who knows after passing concealed carry this year we might be in 10th place next year on their list.
Those states keep coming up as pro-guns which is great.I'd say the first three are Arizona, Alaska and Texas. After that it's a bit of a toss up.
I must agree with that! Texas - concealed carry only with a relatively expensive training and permit process. Doesn't sound that gun friendly to me.Texas has a few miles to go before it makes the top ten, maybe even the top 20. The next gov will probably be a determining factor there.
Having lived in Minnesota and California and now living in West Virginia I'm very happy with the laws here. Short of a few restrictions in the law the overall attitude of towards firearms is very positive socially. People here would probably find it a little weird if you didn't have a few guns at home and no one looks twice at someone carrying open or otherwise.
I checked an the Texas CCW costs $140 almost as much as the Illinois CCW, $150, that will be issued in 2014. A 16 hour course is required, 8 if you have a DD214, or have had NRA basic pistol or better, still quite a bit more than the 4 to 6 hours Texas requires.I must agree with that! Texas - concealed carry only with a relatively expensive training and permit process. Doesn't sound that gun friendly to me.
I checked an the Texas CCW costs $140 almost as much as the Illinois CCW, $150, that will be issued in 2014.
My friend in Idaho says I will like it there. He has a CCW and says it isn't crowded or overpopulated there like it is here. Of course cost to living there is way better than San Francisco CA bay area.I'm in Idaho and love it!, there's a rifle in the truck and a pistol on my hip everyday. My ccw was only 70 bucks and cost of living is way better than California. I came to Idaho 15 months ago broke and out of work, I thought I was just visiting my family but 2 weeks after I arrived I started working and its been the best job I've ever had. ...and potatoes are delicious haha
Beautiful pooch. Looks like Corgi in there.
More like an Australian Cattle Dog.
Corgi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_Corgi
Australian Cattle Dog http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Cattle_Dog