What is this cartridge please?

[mallc]

Head says WW-Super and 348 Win.
Head is: 0.570 in
OAL is 3.295 in
Case is 0.482 in
Bullet is 0.446 in

Thanks,
Scott

 

[RecoilRob]

Uh, I'll go out on a limb here and guess 348 Winchester? Seriously...348 Winchester.
http://www.reloadbench.com/cartridges/348w.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Model_71

 

[Walkalong]

Seriously...348 Winchester.

Gotta love it.

 

[hunterwinco]

with all due respect... I beg to differ. The .348 is a very tapered case...kinda like a 3030 on steroids. It is NOT a straight wall like the photo seems to indicate. This looks like maybe a cartridge that was formed out of a .348 case maybe??

 

[Bad Flynch]

Well, you are correct in figuring that someone made another case out of .348 Win. brass; redrawing, it is called.

The bullet diameter dictates about 44 caliber or "about" 11mm. It could be 10.95mm or one of those really odd ducks. Suggest you look in "Cartridges of the World."

 

[HZOX221]

Probably a wildct based on a 348 Win case. What is the bullet diameter?

Most likely a 450 Alaskan http://www.gmdr.com/lever/450alaskantext.htm

Check to see if there is slight taper on the case.

 

[RecoilRob]

Sorry, I feel like a jerk... Looked at the dimensions again after hunterwinco posted and...yes..it is NOT a standard 348 for sure. Good call!

Closest I can find in a websearch is the 450 Alaskan wildcat. http://www.gmdr.com/lever/450alaskantext.htm Don't know how you could verify it for certain.

Again, sorry for my initial flippant remarks. You have a wildcat of some sort...and an interesting one at that!

http://www.z-hat.com/The Fifty.htm Maybe a 50 Alaskan?? Looks close with no case taper or shoulder.

Edit: The 450 Alaskan seems to have a bit of a shoulder on it. Your cartridge doesn't have any shoulder at all. May be more of a wildcat than listed in the books?
http://www.midwayusa.com/rewriteaproduct/581922 Looks like it? Yes, I think...

 

[Zeke/PA]

The .348 is a bottleneck cartridge.
The cartridge pictured, given the headstamp, is a wildcat based on the .348 Winchester case.
Zeke

 

[Chawbaccer]

My guess is the 450 Alaskan as the Win 71 was only chambered in 348 and many of these guns were converted to the 450

 

[bakert]

Edited to say My answer was wrong. Didn't notice diameter of bullet.

 

[Sport45]

But he said the bullet was .446". I guessing he meant diameter. Doesn't say if he measured at the driving band which is visible above the case mouth.

 

[mallc]

Yes, 0.446" diam. at the driving band.

But he said the bullet was .446". I guessing he meant diameter. Doesn't say if he measured at the driving band which is visible above the case mouth.

I took one apart and found a fiber plug under the bullet. It appears to have stick type, very black color powder.

Thanks,
Scott

 

[Sport45]

With the fiber plug I'm thinking 450 BP Express. I can't find a drawing of one online, but the overall length (3 1/4") sounds right and it's a straight wall case. It's an old double rifle cartridge.

 

[SILENTSOUL308]

looks like a 155 howitzer to me....but what do i know?

 

[mallc]

44-100

Gunshop Jim tells me its a 44-100 built out of a 348.

Thanks,
Scott