bullseyebob47
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so many. are american made aks better, more accurate? im looking for something in the $600 to $700 range. or something thats good for less money is fine by me.
what milled ak type rifle would you buy?
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I have an SLR-95 from Arsenal that has a milled receiver. Can't say that there's too many that are better or more accurate. They just don't make them anymore and I'm not sure what Arsenal replaced them with in their lineup.
At the same time I wouldn't worry about buying a stamped receiver. I used to have a MAK-90 from Norinco, for a $200 AK back in the day it smoked everything I fed it and held about 2 MOA. For an AK that's pretty good for a rifle that will shoot coated in mud, water, carbon, trash....
At the same time I wouldn't worry about buying a stamped receiver. I used to have a MAK-90 from Norinco, for a $200 AK back in the day it smoked everything I fed it and held about 2 MOA. For an AK that's pretty good for a rifle that will shoot coated in mud, water, carbon, trash....
Jackal
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For strictly milled AK's, its pretty hard to justify the DOUBLE cost of an Arsenal over the new Century rifles...
Scooter22
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The Bulgarians, SLR95 is one and the old Polytech Legends were suppose to be the best. I don't think your going to find any in your price range. I never got a milled one years back but I did get a Romanian SAR-1 with straight sights for 289.00 back in 2001. It works as well as any other AK I've shot including my BIL's SLR95. Pretty accurate as AKs go with Brown Bear ammo 3" groups at 100 yds with open sights. Good luck.
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I remain to be convinced that there is any significant difference that the receiver makes as far as AK accuracy goes.
The milled AKs are heavier, but that's about it.
That said, I did break down and got a Areenal SLR-101s that now has Bakelite and wood on it. But it's not a better rifle than my SLR-107FR.
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The milled AKs are heavier, but that's about it.
That said, I did break down and got a Areenal SLR-101s that now has Bakelite and wood on it. But it's not a better rifle than my SLR-107FR.
BSW
I wouldn't buy a milled receiver unless I specifically wanted a particular model as a collectors piece. For a shooter all the milled receiver does in practical terms is weigh more. $600 doesn't get you a lot in the AK world these days. Entry level guns like the wasr 10 are pretty close to that these days.
bikemutt
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I'm very happy with my Vepr. Not milled but it likes to feed on bloc ammo, shoots nice and straight.
Bobson
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I don't believe there is any milled AK at that price range unless you find a particular used rifle somewhere. If it doesn't have to be an "honest to goodness" AK, you could get the Century C39 in that price range. It's milled, but it doesn't have full AK parts interchangeability.
You'd be better off buying a new WASR, IMO. You gain nothing by going milled versus stamped, except unnecessary weight.
Buy a WASR and run around with ankle and wrist wrap-weights every time you hold the rifle, a la Jane Fonda and Gilad Janklowicz. Accomplish the same thing and look fabulous doing it
Plus you have an extra $150 to spend on ammo.
You'd be better off buying a new WASR, IMO. You gain nothing by going milled versus stamped, except unnecessary weight.
Buy a WASR and run around with ankle and wrist wrap-weights every time you hold the rifle, a la Jane Fonda and Gilad Janklowicz. Accomplish the same thing and look fabulous doing it
Plus you have an extra $150 to spend on ammo.
wally
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I've several milled AKs Arsenal, Norinco, Polytech and will agree with the statement that all they are is heavier.
They are an aberration because the Soviet stamping technology of the day for the original AK-47 was not up to snuff. Once the problems were solved the AK-47 quickly became the AKM -- which is what dominates the world.
As said on "Tales Of The Gun" on the History Channel, starting with a 8lb forging and milling it to a <2lb receiver was very inefficient, even for the Soviet standards of the time.
They are an aberration because the Soviet stamping technology of the day for the original AK-47 was not up to snuff. Once the problems were solved the AK-47 quickly became the AKM -- which is what dominates the world.
As said on "Tales Of The Gun" on the History Channel, starting with a 8lb forging and milling it to a <2lb receiver was very inefficient, even for the Soviet standards of the time.
The SAM7 has a mag well that holds all poly, steel, 20s and 30s nice and snug. No wobble at all. Bought it before they were popular and in demand. I like it but can't really justify owning a now $1300 AK.
Had the same problem when my FAL G1 climbed in value to over 4 large. Found someone who wanted it and it was gone.
If you can find one you like and are willing to pay, they are very good.
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Had the same problem when my FAL G1 climbed in value to over 4 large. Found someone who wanted it and it was gone.
If you can find one you like and are willing to pay, they are very good.
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M76 parts kit, then start saving up for a barrel and receiver (present available). Stretched out for such a large cartridge, the fat/heavy AK parts actually seem properly proportioned
Or just save for a finished one from AWO in '06, 308, or original 8mm (probably doable in 7.62x54r with PSL mags as a custom job, too)
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Or just save for a finished one from AWO in '06, 308, or original 8mm (probably doable in 7.62x54r with PSL mags as a custom job, too)
TCB
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The only milled AK I know of in that price range would be the Century C39 V2, which, from all I have read online, is... the cats meow.
$709 from Atlantic.
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/cai-c39-v2-detail.html?Itemid=0
If I wanted a heavy, sturdy 762x39 for less than $1K, it'd be my first choice. OK, only choice since I've never seen milled AKs go for less as of late.
I'm pretty sure Plouffedaddy (MrGunsngear) did a review on them. Might look it up.
$709 from Atlantic.
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/cai-c39-v2-detail.html?Itemid=0
If I wanted a heavy, sturdy 762x39 for less than $1K, it'd be my first choice. OK, only choice since I've never seen milled AKs go for less as of late.
I'm pretty sure Plouffedaddy (MrGunsngear) did a review on them. Might look it up.
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As far as milled receivers go, many will be in the $1000 and up range nowadays. My favorites are SA 93, SLR 95, SLR 100, SLR 101, SAM7, and SAS M7. If you want one of those you might have to open up your wallet really wide.
Just a thought, if you do your homework there are a number of stamped receiver AKs that are accurate also and they don't cost quite as much. There has been a long fascination for milled receivers in the AK community. The cost of milling the block added to the fascination has boosted prices dramatically on milled AK's in the last 7-8 years or so.
Just a thought, if you do your homework there are a number of stamped receiver AKs that are accurate also and they don't cost quite as much. There has been a long fascination for milled receivers in the AK community. The cost of milling the block added to the fascination has boosted prices dramatically on milled AK's in the last 7-8 years or so.
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I own a first gen c39 sporter from century. Love it! Beware milled receiver guns won't take all the different goodies that most people want. But I hit tannerite at 20 yards off hand with ease. It's a little heavier but a great gun. I also own a romy G that I love. Best advise... Do some reading and learn what to look for when your buying. Not all aks are created equal. But if you buy a new production ak these days, chances are you will get a solid rifle. Knowledge is power. Educate yourself and you won't fail.
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I like the milled receiver guns because they tend go be built with better parts and they have a smooth, high quality feel to the action. The added weight over a stamped AK doesn't bother me because I prefer heavy rifles.
Ron Cheney works at Battlefield Vegas where they have about every variety of AK (many of them selective fire). That range shoots hundreds of thousand of rounds per month. Ron reports that no milled AK-47 receivers have failed, but that every flavor of stamped AK-47reveiver has failed. Day and night, huh?
Of course, if a stamped AK will last 50K rounds and a milled AK will last longer, it may be academic unless you shoot much more than the average guy.
Back to milled AKs. You have the following choices:
1. Traditional new milled AKs like the Bulgarian SAM-7's.
2. Used milled AK's like the SA M-7s, SLR101S, and prebans
3. Newer rifles like Century's C39.
I've always had good lock with #2 type of milled guns. These guns were built of best parts in the glory days of companies like Arsenal. Because many of these guns were safe queens and seldom shot, they can be in like new condition. A few years back, I bought a used Arsenal SA M7 Classic that had only been test fired a few times at the factory. The gun is almost too petty to shoot.
I have no experience with the #3 milled guns.
Today prices for #1 and #2 milled guns is $1200+ #3 milled guns are cheaper and $600-700, but the jury is still out of those.
Ron Cheney works at Battlefield Vegas where they have about every variety of AK (many of them selective fire). That range shoots hundreds of thousand of rounds per month. Ron reports that no milled AK-47 receivers have failed, but that every flavor of stamped AK-47reveiver has failed. Day and night, huh?
Of course, if a stamped AK will last 50K rounds and a milled AK will last longer, it may be academic unless you shoot much more than the average guy.
Back to milled AKs. You have the following choices:
1. Traditional new milled AKs like the Bulgarian SAM-7's.
2. Used milled AK's like the SA M-7s, SLR101S, and prebans
3. Newer rifles like Century's C39.
I've always had good lock with #2 type of milled guns. These guns were built of best parts in the glory days of companies like Arsenal. Because many of these guns were safe queens and seldom shot, they can be in like new condition. A few years back, I bought a used Arsenal SA M7 Classic that had only been test fired a few times at the factory. The gun is almost too petty to shoot.
I have no experience with the #3 milled guns.
Today prices for #1 and #2 milled guns is $1200+ #3 milled guns are cheaper and $600-700, but the jury is still out of those.
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I've handled the Century, and it's by far the nicest AK I've ever seen. Makes a WASR look like something cobbled together in a cave.The only milled AK I know of in that price range would be the Century C39 V2, which, from all I have read online, is... the cats meow.
$709 from Atlantic.
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/cai-c39-v2-detail.html?Itemid=0
If I wanted a heavy, sturdy 762x39 for less than $1K, it'd be my first choice. OK, only choice since I've never seen milled AKs go for less as of late.
I'm pretty sure Plouffedaddy (MrGunsngear) did a review on them. Might look it up.
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