What should i look for in an ak-47

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i have pondered buying an ak-47
i have been wondering what name to look for in ak's
and the most reliable there is(like better receivers)
my limit is about $800 or so
i have been thinking about buying an ak in a 223 version
but it doesn't have at much stopping power
and i' m not sure witch bullet is cheaper
ex.folding stock or not
red dot scope or not
wood or synthetic
etc.
 
Convert a Saiga rifle.

Arsenal makes exactly what you seem to be looking for.
Good quality, price tag, .223 Rem, it's all there.
 
OK thanks
I'll be looking into them
also where should i go about buying an ak
there aren't many places in ohio to buy ak's
 
Just so you know ak 223 mags were never standardized so make sure you get the right ones for your rifle or they won't fit and function properly.
 
If I was you I would get an Arsenal, a saiga or a SAR romanian in 223. (that is SAR not the current imports the WASRs if you find a 223 SAR it will most likely be on the used market as they are not being imported anymore) Arsenals take the Bulgarian mags as do MOST converted Saigas. Unconverted stock saiga take saiga specific mags. SARs take romanian mags as do the wasrs. Then there are converted 545 mags and yugo 223 mags. By and large most 223 aks take Bulgarian, Romanian or the saiga mags for that particular Russian made rifle. There are more mag types than I have listed here also.
 
$800 can set you up with some nice AK-pattern rifles. WASRs, Yugos, and Saigas can be had new, and some of the nicer models (Arsenal) can probably be found used. Keep in mind that with the current gun buying panic, you may have trouble finding the gun you want, and when you do find it, you may pay exorbitant prices.

.223 and 7.62x39 are roughly the same price nowadays. You can shoot steel-cased .223 in your AK without any problems, and it runs about $6.00 or so a box at Gander Mountain. It can also be had in bulk. As of late (gun panic again), I've had problems finding plinking ammo and have been relegated to paying $14.99 or more for a box of 20. Caliber choice is personal preference, especially if you don't own other weapons in either caliber. Stopping power is also more than adequate in both calibers, but I wouldn't use an AK pattern for hunting any "larger" game as the accuracy isn't quite there (some Saigas and other exceptions apply), I also wouldn't use it as a "home defense" gun if you live in an urban/suburban environment as overpenetration can lead to SERIOUS consequences.

I wouldn't put a scope on an AK (maybe some higher dollar models), because the accuracy just isn't there and the gun won't group how you want it (again, more of a problem with the WASRs). Also, some of the mounts on the market aren't very good for stabilization. Red dots are a good idea if you feel the need for some optics, the AK sights are acceptable at best.

Wood or synthetic is personal preference. You can always change the furniture. If you plan on hunting or shooting in inclement weather, maybe synthetic would be a better bet, but again, it's all what looks and feels best to you.

Reliability isn't a concern in an AK pattern rifle, at least it shouldn't be. I've put 2000 rounds through my bottom-of-the-line WASR (that includes brass, steel, milsurp, and reloads) and have literally ZERO malfunctions. I'm talking not even a hiccup.

My recommendation is WASR, especially for beginners, it'll get you introduced to the AK pattern and you'll have enough knowledge and confidence to move on to higher-quality guns later down the road.
 
Not hard at all. Just pop off the upper hand guards and there are usually two screws on the butt stock. Expensive can be tricky. You can get synthetic stock sets for pretty darn cheap, but some of the nicer finished wood stock sets can get up there. (300-400 for a nice custom one) But then again, you can buy a bare set for around 100 and finish it yourself if you choose.
 
RamboOntario said:
and the most reliable there is(like better receivers)
In an AK, there is no such difference. Don't buy into the marketing efforts being made to push obsolete technology and take advantage of human psychology to sell the same loaf of bread (Arsenal, Inc). Stamped receiver AKs have now been running 100% for longer than milled ones were made.


Another vote for converting a Saiga.

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For a first AK, I recommend the 7.62X39. Mags are plentiful and cheaper than the 5.45 and .223.

Honestly other than aesthetics, AKs run like AKs.

If you want a .223, go with a Saiga and fork out the money to convert to AK102. Awesome looking AK platform so much that I am having one built in that config. :D If you're going to spend $800 might as well go that route for a little bit more and get a very special AK that you don't see at the range all the time.
 
A good warranty/return policy.

AKs require lots of hand fitted parts. Goobers can put AK shaped objects together but making them work right requires some skill.

Both of my AKs required a trip back to correct problems. In both cases the problems were taken care of in a professional manner.

BSW
 
my main problem with ak's is that their not very ergonomic
but if its realy easy to remove i dont need to buy a realy nice one and i can customize it myself for less
 
I wouldn't say they're not ergonomic...they fit my frame well and handle well. The foregrips also are easier to hold (for me) than AR15 grips.

But the AK-47 wasn't a rifle designed to be fired accurately from the shoulder like an M16/M4. It was supposed to be fired from the hip, full auto, magazine after magazine, in formation with the other members of your unit, while you advance towards your enemy.

The original AK-47 had a stock that was more turned down to allow for better target acquisition, but the new ones make it hard to line up the sights without getting a nice crack on the cheek from the recoil.

Don't get too crazy with the modifications if you're just starting out. It has to comply with the 922r regulations, stating that your rifle NEEDS a certain amount of US parts to be legal. Also, keep in mind, a cheap rifle will look cheap. I have a WASR-10 that I bought cheap...and it looks cheap. No matter how many times I change the furniture, the metal will never look like I paid $1000.
 
No matter how many times I change the furniture, the metal will never look like I paid $1000.

Well, I don't know that I would say that...

My $500 AES-10B. Wood was refinished with tung oil, RPK bipod added and metal parkerized for $120. I think it cam out looking ok. BSW

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If i get an ak in a .223 i wouldnt have the accuracy problem
your ak look like a very high quality one
with a big bipod its not awkward for the big banana clip
do you have interchangable barrels for your ak?
 
yes of coarse i have owned a gun before
there is no comparison at 200 yard with a .223 and a 7.62
this video proves it

You slap the trigger on ANY rifle like the guy with the AK was doing and I guarantee you you won't hit anything at 200 yards either.

I used my AK to hit steel Larue targets at 225 yards at a local match last weekend. It isn't that hard.

BSW
 
yes of coarse i have owned a gun before
there is no comparison at 200 yard with a .223 and a 7.62
this video proves it

That video is of a full auto AK-47 vs a full auto M-16. Tell me how this means an AK in 5.56 is more accurate than an AK in 7.62? :uhoh:

Apples/Canteloupes

BTW nice looking AK/RPK there BSW. :D
 
I would say get a Saiga in .308, but IF YOU CAN FIND ONE, it's usually $600-800 dollars nowadays. Just last year you could find them for $350 (and that was considered outrageous back then).

Given the state of the market, I would NOT buy an AK variant of any type. The cheapest I've seen from a dealer in Kansas City is a $715 dollar WASR-10 at Armsmart Inc. in Independence. I cannot figure out how anyone could justify $700 on a WASR. They're the cheap-o AK's.

Your pretty much stuck looking for a private seller now. Sometime you'll find AK's for $600, which is still absolutely amazing. When I bought a Saiga last fall it was $324.00, rounding WITH tax. A .223 Saiga was a mere $290, $300 something with tax.

Your just paying way more than the rifle is worth buying an AK nowadays. I'd say you should wait a year, maybe then people will calm down and dealers won't be able to rob people blind.
 
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