rangerruck
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mossberg superbantam model, in 243, with several adjustable buttpad inserts, to use as the person grows... very good deal/ right now Academy has these on sale, with a scope mounted , for 300 bucks, super deal.
What's a good deer gun for youth?
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longdayjake
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I can't wait to give my kid my .25-06. I have not met anyone yet who thought it kicked a lot.
First, are there any caliber requirements in your state?
I am sure many people will object, but we use 223 a lot in this state for white tail. Modern expanding bullets make this a quick killer at the ranges specified. I'll also put in a vote for the CZ-527, in that caliber or in the 7.62x39 Russian. The rifle is light and short, and the detachable magazine makes it easy to load and unload.
For heavier rounds, 243 or 260 are both excellent choices, but the weight of the rifle is a factor too, particular with smaller women who don't have the same upper body strength as men and may have trouble holding up a rifle for any appreciable time.
You didn't specify a budget. How much are you willing to spend?
I am sure many people will object, but we use 223 a lot in this state for white tail. Modern expanding bullets make this a quick killer at the ranges specified. I'll also put in a vote for the CZ-527, in that caliber or in the 7.62x39 Russian. The rifle is light and short, and the detachable magazine makes it easy to load and unload.
For heavier rounds, 243 or 260 are both excellent choices, but the weight of the rifle is a factor too, particular with smaller women who don't have the same upper body strength as men and may have trouble holding up a rifle for any appreciable time.
You didn't specify a budget. How much are you willing to spend?
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anyone used the reduced recoil loads? I think Remington makes them in 30-30. With two kids, he won't have to worry out growing the gun too fast. One of the single shots are a great value for a kid. If dad likes them the contenders are great too.
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I think the 30-30 would be more effective than the .243 at the ranges you mentioned. With the reduced recoil rounds, you're probably looking at less recoil than the .243 too. Another option might be a .308 with the reduced recoil rounds. .308 will probably kick harder than the 30-30, but would be a great round for the kid down the road. That's only if the gun would still fit him.
i would say it depends on what the terrain you are hunting. are you hunting open ground farms/cattle ground in the mid west?, you hunting heavy thick woods/swamps of the south? hard woods of the east??
this would be my opinion.
7.62x39 heavy woods/ thick woods/ swamp grounds. AK 47 style rifle. Saiga or straight up military configuartion or the bolt action version of the CZ would be good to. Open or very low power scope. the AK style rifle is very simple to operate the saftey is kinda loud on some rifles. and chambering a round is VERY LOUD would defently be a rifle to be used under adult supervision or experinced young shooters.
open ground/long range shots .243 or 6.5x55 swede bolt action or single shot break open style. it was posted above for a young novice shooter with very little experince a break open style single shot rifle would be perfect very little to mess up when excited pull hammer back and squeeze the trigger. recoil would be managable for a young shooter (if noticed at all while shooting game!) light weight.
this would be my opinion.
7.62x39 heavy woods/ thick woods/ swamp grounds. AK 47 style rifle. Saiga or straight up military configuartion or the bolt action version of the CZ would be good to. Open or very low power scope. the AK style rifle is very simple to operate the saftey is kinda loud on some rifles. and chambering a round is VERY LOUD would defently be a rifle to be used under adult supervision or experinced young shooters.
open ground/long range shots .243 or 6.5x55 swede bolt action or single shot break open style. it was posted above for a young novice shooter with very little experince a break open style single shot rifle would be perfect very little to mess up when excited pull hammer back and squeeze the trigger. recoil would be managable for a young shooter (if noticed at all while shooting game!) light weight.
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woof
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I have to say I find this attractive:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=115396899
Ruger 77 Mark II Frontier, ss/laminated, .260 Rem, 16.5 inch barrel, Prostaff 2-7 - isn't 500 a deal?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=115396899
Ruger 77 Mark II Frontier, ss/laminated, .260 Rem, 16.5 inch barrel, Prostaff 2-7 - isn't 500 a deal?
huntin dad
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thanks again everyone. I am on a very limited budget. As I said before the range they will shooting will be 75 yards or less. Most likely less. Most of my shots are around 40-50 yards. I still haven't completely given up on the idea of a .357 but leaning toward the 30-30. I do have questions as to the effectiveness of the 7.62 x 39. My dad shot my first deer as a follow up shot to mine with an SKS when I was a kid. My shot was true with a 30 '06. We found his bullet just under the skin on the opposite side. Has anyone had experice with this round and how well did it penetrate.
7.62x39 is more than adequate at those ranges and then some. I have a friend on this board who built an AR in that calinber specifically for hunting. There is also a thread where somebody shot a doe at 247 yards with 7.62x39. My 11yr old shoots my buddies sks and loves it. You may check that out. Also I really like .243 in the hands of a youth.
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I Know A 12 year old that starred with a 300 savage and got his first doe with it.
Hi there!
Nothing takes the place of shot placement.
I think most would agree the 243 is prob. the all around best youth cal. in America for taking deer size game.
The perceived recoil for the 243 75 gr. is about 8.5 fp's. Compare that to the 3006 with 150 gr bullet of 17.6 foot pounds of recoil. That is less than half the felt recoil!
The 3030 comes in at about 10.6 foot pounds with a 150 gr bullet., and the 2506 at about 12.5 with a 120 gr bullet.
The fit and weight of the gun is a big factor also.
Nothing takes the place of practice, and knowing your rifle, before going to the field.
For a small framed youth, I would suggest buying a single shot Handi rifle in 243, or another less expensive rifle and cut the stock to fit, and add a nice recoil pad. Save the piece you cut off and re attach it as they grow into it.
Nothing takes the place of shot placement.
I think most would agree the 243 is prob. the all around best youth cal. in America for taking deer size game.
The perceived recoil for the 243 75 gr. is about 8.5 fp's. Compare that to the 3006 with 150 gr bullet of 17.6 foot pounds of recoil. That is less than half the felt recoil!
The 3030 comes in at about 10.6 foot pounds with a 150 gr bullet., and the 2506 at about 12.5 with a 120 gr bullet.
The fit and weight of the gun is a big factor also.
Nothing takes the place of practice, and knowing your rifle, before going to the field.
For a small framed youth, I would suggest buying a single shot Handi rifle in 243, or another less expensive rifle and cut the stock to fit, and add a nice recoil pad. Save the piece you cut off and re attach it as they grow into it.
Jeff F
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I have seen a lot of deer and other things killed with a .243. I have only shot one a little and have only taken varmints with it. I think it makes for a fine deer caliber.
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