What's the ultimate Carry handgun
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easyg
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So far I haven't found anything I like better than the Glock 27 (.40S&W) or the Glock 33 (.357Sig).
Relatively light weight,
very reliable,
easy to shoot accurately at self-defense range,
easy to maintain,
parts and accessories are plentiful and rather inexpensive,
9+1 capacity of .40 or .357Sig with the ability to use higher capacity magazines,
easy to conceal,
There's just not much to dislike for a concealed everyday carry pistol.
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wlewisiii
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Ultimate would probably be a S&W Model 327 Night Guard. 8 shot N frame snubby (2.5" barrel). In the meantime, the 4" 64 does the job very well.
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bshnt2015
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If it were like "The Book of Eli", I'd go with the Glock 21 or a HK 45, but for everyday carry a Glock 19 or 23 would do fine.
pikid89
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My Colt Commander Lightweight...hides pretty well..JMB done good...lotto firepower (not numerically speaking)...pretty darn thin..and lightweight
gbran
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I've spent a lot of money trying to find that perfect carry gun. I've finally settled on a Glock G26. My last effort was a PM9. It was near perfect, but wasn't reliable. I also wanted more capacity. The g26 seems 110% reliable and while bigger than the PM9, it's not too big.
I carry a 1911 when I can.
I carry a 1911 when I can.
biohazurd
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Personally a slightly modified Colt 1991 Combat Commander or gov't model would be my ultimate carry gun. Yeah they arnt light but i really dont have a problem carrying one all day.
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There isn't one.
2 Good ones are: a 1911 or a S&W 13 with a 3" barrel.
2 Good ones are: a 1911 or a S&W 13 with a 3" barrel.
The perfect carry gun is like the perfect car to drive to work. The perfect work beater is a car that starts every time while not requiring tons of maintenance, is intuitive enough that you don’t have to think about how to turn on the wipers or blow the horn, is comfortable enough that you don’t dread getting in it every day, gets decent fuel economy while being roomy enough for you to run errands on the way home, and is inexpensive enough that you don’t mind parking it anywhere or letting it get rained/snowed/hailed on.
The perfect carry gun should be 100% reliable without being finicky about ammo, oil, pocket lint, or environment. It needs to be intuitive enough to point and fire under duress, comfortable enough to carry every time you go out regardless what your wardrobe is, enough fun to shoot that you practice with it regularly, uses common enough ammo that you can feed it affordably, powerful enough to stop an assailant with a center of mass hit, durable enough to handle all the holster wear and day-to-day rubbing, banging, and perspiration that a carry gun is subject to, and inexpensive (and common) enough that if it gets scuffed, scratched, damaged, or given up in the aftermath of its being called on to defend your life or the life of others you haven’t lost anything irreplaceable or that has a strong sentimental attachment.
As with the perfect beater car, the embodiment of the perfect carry handgun will be different for each individual. My work beater is a Pontiac Aztek, my carry guns are a Taurus 24/7 Pro Compact .45 for IWB and a Polish P-64 chambered in Makarov for pocket carry. As you can see from my definitions and my chosen embodiments of beater car and carry gun, cachet isn't a factor for me. Function is.
The perfect carry gun should be 100% reliable without being finicky about ammo, oil, pocket lint, or environment. It needs to be intuitive enough to point and fire under duress, comfortable enough to carry every time you go out regardless what your wardrobe is, enough fun to shoot that you practice with it regularly, uses common enough ammo that you can feed it affordably, powerful enough to stop an assailant with a center of mass hit, durable enough to handle all the holster wear and day-to-day rubbing, banging, and perspiration that a carry gun is subject to, and inexpensive (and common) enough that if it gets scuffed, scratched, damaged, or given up in the aftermath of its being called on to defend your life or the life of others you haven’t lost anything irreplaceable or that has a strong sentimental attachment.
As with the perfect beater car, the embodiment of the perfect carry handgun will be different for each individual. My work beater is a Pontiac Aztek, my carry guns are a Taurus 24/7 Pro Compact .45 for IWB and a Polish P-64 chambered in Makarov for pocket carry. As you can see from my definitions and my chosen embodiments of beater car and carry gun, cachet isn't a factor for me. Function is.
NMGonzo
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Ah ... you are talking about a Bersa single stack .40 with a 6 round magazine.
My lightweight Commander in a Crossbreed works pretty darn well. I may change that opinion when I get my Milt Sparks VM2 for my P7 sometime in the next century though.
Whatever you get, make it more "ultimate" by practicing with it. Not only shooting it, but drawing it from your holster of choice. Practicing wearing coats for the Minnesota winter was very humbling.
Whatever you get, make it more "ultimate" by practicing with it. Not only shooting it, but drawing it from your holster of choice. Practicing wearing coats for the Minnesota winter was very humbling.
Hokkmike
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Walther PPS is close...
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RC nailed it for me. I have a lot of options but the little Kel Tec is there most of the time. I suppose if I wore a suit jacket for work I would see it different. Open carry finds a 4" rev or 1911, or glock and also in winter but the 380 is on me all the time.
If we're talking dream guns, then here is what I'd like to carry:
A gun similar to a Tokarev TT33, but with a shorter barrel (if you have a Tok, pull the slide back to lock, then use your hand to cover the exposed barrel, and ignore the slide overhanging the back of the grip-approx that size) with a double stack 10 round mag and lower profile grips, and make it SA/DA with a heavy trigger pull and a decocker and no safety.
It would be small enough for summer carry in light clothes, and have enough of a wallop in the 7.62x25 chambering for penetration in heavy winter clothing. Also include some easy to find HP ammo, and it would be a winner IMO.
Since that doesn't exist, I'll continue to carry what I carry now, a .380 PPK/s or a CZ70 in .32acp.
A gun similar to a Tokarev TT33, but with a shorter barrel (if you have a Tok, pull the slide back to lock, then use your hand to cover the exposed barrel, and ignore the slide overhanging the back of the grip-approx that size) with a double stack 10 round mag and lower profile grips, and make it SA/DA with a heavy trigger pull and a decocker and no safety.
It would be small enough for summer carry in light clothes, and have enough of a wallop in the 7.62x25 chambering for penetration in heavy winter clothing. Also include some easy to find HP ammo, and it would be a winner IMO.
Since that doesn't exist, I'll continue to carry what I carry now, a .380 PPK/s or a CZ70 in .32acp.
PowerG
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Commander-size 1911.
huntsman
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WOW that describes mine to a "T"
Hi,
To play the devil's advocate here . . . Why ten rounds? Why 15, or six? They are all "just" handguns and as a deer hunter I've seen some things in the woods through the years that tell me that you never know WHAT is going to happen when you make a killing shot, even with a high power rifle. Many a slack-jawed hunter has sat there without even working the bolt after making a "perfect shot" on a deer with a 30.06 and see it bounding away.
Shot placement is everything. Second is a big, heavy bullet in a handgun. My Keltec P-32 never comes out of the safe anymore because it isn't tackdriving accurate nor does it have much in the way of bullet weight or energy.
My 1st generation Kimber Ultra CDP is a very reliable, aluminum framed 3" 1911 in .45ACP . . . and comes as close to "ultimate" as I can think of for CCW, yet at the moment it is also in the safe.
Better yet, the high cap Para .45ACP would be more gun, but dang . . . all those bullets and the size of that boat anchor mean that it stays in the safe a lot too. No . . .
IMHO, the ultimate self defense handgun is one that you ALWAYS can have with you, for besides shot placement and bullet weight and energy, the THIRD, but most important factor is to actually HAVE the gun immediately in your hand if trouble comes kicking in the front door five seconds after you read this!!!
Thus, I'd better give my vote for an "ultimate" CCW handgun to my 5-shot S&W aluminum framed "Airweight" revolver in .38 special. As I type this, in my gym shorts, it rides in the front pocket of the shorts.
Well . . . gotta go . . . it is time to walk the dog before bedtime . . . and the Model 37 is always with me.
To play the devil's advocate here . . . Why ten rounds? Why 15, or six? They are all "just" handguns and as a deer hunter I've seen some things in the woods through the years that tell me that you never know WHAT is going to happen when you make a killing shot, even with a high power rifle. Many a slack-jawed hunter has sat there without even working the bolt after making a "perfect shot" on a deer with a 30.06 and see it bounding away.
Shot placement is everything. Second is a big, heavy bullet in a handgun. My Keltec P-32 never comes out of the safe anymore because it isn't tackdriving accurate nor does it have much in the way of bullet weight or energy.
My 1st generation Kimber Ultra CDP is a very reliable, aluminum framed 3" 1911 in .45ACP . . . and comes as close to "ultimate" as I can think of for CCW, yet at the moment it is also in the safe.
Better yet, the high cap Para .45ACP would be more gun, but dang . . . all those bullets and the size of that boat anchor mean that it stays in the safe a lot too. No . . .
IMHO, the ultimate self defense handgun is one that you ALWAYS can have with you, for besides shot placement and bullet weight and energy, the THIRD, but most important factor is to actually HAVE the gun immediately in your hand if trouble comes kicking in the front door five seconds after you read this!!!
Thus, I'd better give my vote for an "ultimate" CCW handgun to my 5-shot S&W aluminum framed "Airweight" revolver in .38 special. As I type this, in my gym shorts, it rides in the front pocket of the shorts.
Well . . . gotta go . . . it is time to walk the dog before bedtime . . . and the Model 37 is always with me.
gbw
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Once again I'm w/ Mr. S&WFan, except I'd place third first.
HAVE the gun when you need it.
HIT what you are shooting at and nothing else.
If those 2 are met, everything else is nearly irrelevant in almost any case a civilian will ever confront. I'll settle for that.
HAVE the gun when you need it.
HIT what you are shooting at and nothing else.
If those 2 are met, everything else is nearly irrelevant in almost any case a civilian will ever confront. I'll settle for that.
The ultimate carry for one person won't be the ultimate for everybody else.
My favorite is my Kahr P45. Light, slim, easy to conceal, 6+1 .45 ACP power, and most important, it has been 100% reliable for the last 1,000 rounds. (a few jams during the break-in, but perfect since) It fits my hand well and I can shoot it accurately at any reasonable self defense range.
My favorite is my Kahr P45. Light, slim, easy to conceal, 6+1 .45 ACP power, and most important, it has been 100% reliable for the last 1,000 rounds. (a few jams during the break-in, but perfect since) It fits my hand well and I can shoot it accurately at any reasonable self defense range.
kk0g
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Well if money is no object then it would be a custom built Wilson Combat 1911, but since I can't afford that; for now it's a Taurus PT1911.
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