What's your reaction to hideous grammar/spelling/punctuation in gun-related postings?

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What about spell czech? Kin yew use that four two keep the spelling errors down? But there is a weigh around it. Eye kin beet that thing; as yew kin sea rite hear it wood knot no watt eye was doing.
 
It drives me nuts, nails on a chalkboard. It reminds me of the old fable, a teacher asks a student, "which is worse, ignorance or apathy?" The student answers, "I don't know and I don't care."

It's which gun, not what gun. Then there is to, too and two with all meaning different things. There, their and they're also mean different things. While I understand some people have less formal education than others, if you know you are grammatically challenged then type your post in Word, let it correct you, then copy, paste and post. Overall I think more often than not it's simply laziness and that's the irritating part.
 
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Tgiy sa thet u onky ned to git teh fihst and lrst luttir rite fur pueoble to b abule to read wkat sunesifg says.


That is if you are really smart
 
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Some people are just poor written communicators, which is unfortunate because their mistakes detract from what might be an important message. I admit that I will just scroll right past a post (on any site) that is all capped, two misspellings in as many sentences, no paragraph breaks, or exceedingly poor grammar. Oh, and if some cowboy actually uses the non-word "ain't" I usually skip the thread entirely. No reason for that.

It isn't about being a jerk. This is about using a medium per intended design. Elevating one's language/ communication skills is a simple action one can take to elevate a legion of other awesomeness in their life.
 
  1. Might it keep you from taking someone seriously?
  2. Could it keep you from purchasing their goods for sale?
  3. Do you think it reflects poorly on the pro-2A community?
  1. Yes
  2. Yes
  3. Yes

I've been known to skip helping someone troubleshoot - because they had posted a word-salad of gibberish

I wouldn't buy something from someone that mangled a simple "for sale" ad or a website

I'm about tired of fighting the "ignorant hillbilly" stereotype when debating anti-rights clowns, I'd appreciate if they had less to base their stereotyping on

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I don't ask for perfection. I'm sure I make the occasional typo myself, or miss an autocomplete/autocorrect screwup. I know that my writing has some quirks that may not be in the manual of style as "approved format".


Things that make my grind my teeth:
(but may not make me bail out if minimal)
-Misuse of homophones (they're/their/there or to/too)
-Apostrophe abuse (two gun's)
-Use of "loose" in place of "lose" (seriously, what the heck is wrong with those people?!?!?!)
-Pointless profanity (really, if you're not being original with it or you're trying to work around the filters - just stop)
-Nonsense like "baretta", "Smith & Western", ".9mm" (hey genius, the word/concept you're mangling is written on the side of the gun or box)
-emoticon over-use

If the whole thing is in txtspk, 1337spk, or is just an unformatted wall of text, I'm out. I'm not helping, I'm not associating ... but I'm also not going to play language-police.


This post written; without spellcheck, in the basic browser post editor, on a junky antique computer that only has an outdated version of IE, and without a detailed re-read and re-edit
 
Oh, and capatializing random words in every sentence drives me nuts.

There's at least one poster that thinks the edit box is a typewriter, obviously hitting "enter" whenever they near the right edge of the typing area but sometimes forgetting to and letting word-wrap happen, that mostly makes me laugh.
 
Ain't

This bugs the crap out of me that folks think it's not a word.

It is a recognized word. It has a dictionary definition. It's use was widespread and still is. It's been used in literature and pop culture from artists and writers from Samuel Clemens to " the beetles"

Railing against "ain't" just shows how tenuous your grasp on the ever evolving language is
 
What's your reaction to hideous grammar/spelling/punctuation in gun-related postings? Might it keep you from taking someone seriously? Could it keep you from purchasing their goods for sale? Do you think it reflects poorly on the pro-2A community?...

I frequently skim the local gun trader website and won't consider responding to an ad which is full of obvious flaws and general non-caring. I feel that if the language is poorly attended to, then how well maintained is the item I want to purchase? Maybe my reasoning is flawed but it's based on lots of experience - I've given poor sentence handlers many chances and a very high percentage have proven to be poor performers in many other areas of life. Having said that, every now and then though, an outlier pops through. I know of one guy who is a heroin addict and is consequently having a really tough time getting through life. If the only contact you had with him was through a forum, you'd never know how upside down and bleak his life is because he is a fantastic writer and speller. You just never know.
 
I often correct my own post when it comes to spelling , grammar and punctuation , if my poor writing skills offends someone well I can tell you where there's a bridge I know of that you can jump off of ... Its a gun/firearm forum not a college English class.:rolleyes:
 
If this was a grammer and spelling forum I might comment , but for now I just wonder why this post is still alive, as it is truely off topic . :scrutiny:
 
I have to agree with Frankie. This is a chat site not school. One of the reasons I post here is to help my writing skills! If someone misspells something there could be a number of reasons for it. I am not here to judge them! Only to learn &share what I can. Have to agree with mrat also!
 
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Yes, yes, and YES. Particularly since our opponents strive so mightily to use proper grammar, seem to know how to use spell-check, and, more importantly, understand that the credibility of one's message is suspect when the delivery is heinous ...

I fully agree. Why is it that anti-Second Amendment individuals who debate gun control on the Internet often do so with superior grammar/spelling/punctuation compared to their pro-Second Amendment opponents? It would be truly interesting to understand the reason(s) for this difference.
 
I fully agree. Why is it that anti-Second Amendment individuals who debate gun control on the Internet often do so with superior grammar/spelling/punctuation compared to their pro-Second Amendment opponents? It would be truly interesting to understand the reason(s) for this difference.


You really think the pro2nd side has a monopoly on marginally readable posts?


You need to read more supporting comments below anti2a rhetoric

Especially if you consider lol omg btdt acronyms as a bastardization of our mix match hodgepodge language
 
Ain't

This bugs the crap out of me that folks think it's not a word.

It is a recognized word. It has a dictionary definition. It's use was widespread and still is. It's been used in literature and pop culture from artists and writers from Samuel Clemens to " the beetles"

Railing against "ain't" just shows how tenuous your grasp on the ever evolving language is

That's a very recent development within the last 5-10 years. The only time I will use "ain't" is in spoken discourse to draw attention to a point I'm trying to make because it's use is still very suspect.
 
Mark twain was writing in the last decade. I'll be.

Ain't isn't a word only for people who took a decision by a bunch of government union employees in the 50's as gospel.

For the rest of the world ain't has been a word for the past 200 years
 
You really think the pro2nd side has a monopoly on marginally readable posts?


You need to read more supporting comments below anti2a rhetoric

Especially if you consider lol omg btdt acronyms as a bastardization of our mix match hodgepodge language

I never said that. I don't know if you knowingly offered this comment as a lie or if you truly thought I did, but the fact is I did not.

The fact remains that when I read gun control related discourse on forums ranging from "The Blaze" and "Fox News" to "NPR" and "CNN", it's the anti-Second Amendment folks who are posting with the fewest grammar/spelling/punctuation errors.
 
That's very interesting. I often surf forums related to my faith, to firearms/shooting and to my other hobbies/interests including: history, hiking, drag racing, classic cars, golf and fitness. None of the other forums come close to firearms/shooting forums when it comes to the topic under discussion.
I see different styles in different forums, but affectation is everywhere.

Fitness forums are far more likely to have 'Bro' dialect (faux frat) posts, for example. I don't visit golf or faith forums but I assume they are primarily frequented by older people, so I would expect a more formal style of writing - even by younger posters who would not normally communicate in that style. Car forums in general can vary quite a bit. I suspect the classic car audience overlaps with the golf audience (older) but I have seen styled (usually an attempt at US eastern south) posts on racing forums quite often. Hiking (vs hunting) is a rather costal activity, so you will tend to see coastal (which is to say mainstream, since the costal states dominate US culture) styles.

History is an academic interest. The stylistic affectation endemic to such milieu is near-hurculean efforts to elevate Flesch-Kincaid Readability Metrics. (Insecure people think big words make them sound smarter, or so people like telling me.)

You are correct that some of the most overt, and extreme, styling seems to localize to firearms forums. I suspect that people are playing a game of oneupmanship. E.g. there is a cast lead bullet forum where most posts are in faux gold rush prospector speak. I think the costumed shooting sports (CAS and some of the mountain man deerskin stuff) make that sort of role playing seem more reasonable.

Of course style isn't everything. There are plenty of people whose first exposure to writing as a real-world form of communication is these forums. The poster may be 70 years old, or 42, or 8, but until they have never held a job or done anything that required writing. They are ignorant, but trying. I think it is a measure of the passion people feel that they are willing to do something outside their experience and comfort zone. I suspect that given time those people turn into normal posters...normal for the forums they frequent, anyway. I suspect guns generate more passion than golf, but I could be wrong.

A few people are just dumb, but not many have that excuse.
 
Me thinks some folks are taking themselves and what they write entirely too seriously.

I enjoy watching old cops and robbers movies made in the 1930's. I love the slang the actors use. For me my handguns are either named Roscoe or Heater regardless if they are a semi-auto, revolver or a revolver that has a safety that to be switched off before it will fire.
 
I have to agree with Frankie. This is a chat site not school. One of the reasons I post here is to help my writing skills! If someone misspells something there could be a number of reasons for it. I am not here to judge them! Only to learn &share what I can. Have to agree with mrat also!

Like what? Limited perspicacity? That can be overcome largely by effort (use of spell and grammar checkers, etc.) as some have pointed out. Ignorance? That too can be overcome if one is willing to be diligent.

For what it's worth, THR is definitely not a "chat" site...
 
I guess I need to have a sit down with my editor.

Good thing I'm not anybody important to have to worry about my grammar being critiqued.

Though I strive not to make mistakes, I'm positive I still make them.
 
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