Where are the primers

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And there is the culprit. That's why some folks want redistribution of various things. Because other's can't do what's right, admit they were wrong, or even care about John Doe.

"They had the same opportunity I had!" Yeah, but they got there ten minutes after you did.
 
WHO NEEDS THEM? Are you going to be staving off the united states armed forces soon? Some other foreign military? What about the OP? I mean come on. Beside, I've got 400 primers and about 500 loaded rounds. I'm good for 2 months before I need to start looking. What I'm saying is... it doesn't matter. Obviously folks would rather hoard than share.
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OK, now I'm talking about you personally...
Honestly, who do you think you are to determine what other people need? Take a deep look into yourself and figure out why you think you get to decide that sort of thing for other people.
Maybe I need that many primers because I like to shoot 1,000 rounds a month. Maybe I'm preparing for the next volcano to blow here in WA, maybe I like how they look on my shelf, maybe I compete in IPSC. Bottom line is, it's none of your business whether I need them or not.
"They had the same opportunity I had!" Yeah, but they got there ten minutes after you did.
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Yeah, and the last 5 times I went, somebody got there before me. I just kept at it till I got some. I didn't whine about it on the internet, I just kept trying till I got what I needed. No big deal.
 
How long do primers last any ways. I have a bunch that have to be going on 10 years old now. I haven't had to shoot much for the last few years. I have powder going on 20 years old also.
 
Didn't read every post so hope this wasn't mentioned earlier.
Just get in line on Cabela's backorder lists make sure you tell em to ship all your items together so you only get one Haz charge, and make sure you read the fine print on every email they send you.
 
Also, MidwayUSA gets primers in stock once every couple of weeks. They go back out of stock in half an hour or less, but if you sign up to be notified that they're in stock all you have to do is hop on the site and put in your order. I missed out twice when some came in and managed to get some on the third time some came in stock since I started waiting for them.

Also, Wolf primers have been in stock all over the place for the last 2 weeks or so.

I should also mention that I made a post here letting everyone know WLPs were in stock at Midway. They stayed in stock for at least half an hour after I made my post. Primers are out there to be had at normal prices. Just don't expect them to fall into your lap. I don't mind sharing information, and I don't mind sharing primers with my friends and family.
 
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I have at least 10,000 primers on my shelf.... I have had at least 10,000 primers on my shelf for over 10 years.... every time I used some, I would go and get some more.... am I one of the hoarders then? I was only buying 1,000 at a time.... and I am not buying more than I use.... I just happened to always think that having 10,000 primers on hand was a good idea, and I still do.... just in case, you know?..... lol.... "in case of what?" is what you would have been saying 1 year ago...
 
I'm still saying "in case of what?" right now. Although since you had 10k for 10 years, only refill what's used, and that's 1k at a time... you're not a culprit.
 
you're not a culprit.
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The only culprits for the shortage are the manufacturers who can't keep up with demand. Now if you don't have enough primers yourself, the only culprit is you ;)
The current demand for primers can't all be people who are buying more than you think they should. There are a lot of factors that have come together at the same time. You have our soldiers burning through a ton of ammo, you have a lot of new shooters who are buying factory ammo, you have a lot of new reloaders who are buying components, you have a lot of people concerned about being prepared for the worst, you have a lot of people who are exercising common sense and buying in accordance with the lead times, and yes there are scalpers out there too etc. etc. You can't just pick out any one of those and blame it for the whole problem.
 
JimKirk said:
Problem is there is a hurricane in the gulf, the east coast, the west coast and one in each of the great lakes! Until people stop buying 30,000 every time the find them there are going to be hurricanes everywhere!
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Exactly!

Over the last few months everyone has also said "be quick" and "check back often" with the local gun stores. Unfortunately, either of the two places where I'd normally look for primers are more than 20 minutes from my house. Plus, no one at either of these two places knows when they'll be getting more in... I haven't been able to get small pistol primers in months, simply because I can't get to them in time when they do come in!

I'll call the local gun shop and ask, and they'll say, "oh yeah, we had some this morning, but they are gone now... keep checking back". Well, that doesn't do me a whole lot of good if I am not available to spend all of my waking hours camped out at a gun store in hopes that primers might show up on any given day! So, unless I find a local dealer that will backorder, or I get very lucky, it looks like I'll be waiting a while for primers.

BTW, having a few thousand primers isn't hoarding in my mind (5,000, etc), depending on how much you shoot. But, some folks are stocking over a few hundred thousand right now! That might just be a wee bit excessive, and is certainly going to be an issue if their local fire department ever gets wind of it!
 
Hey Guys, Cabela's only charges 1 HazMat fee per order. I emailed them and asked about it and here is their reply:

From Cablea's Customer Service -

Hello Greg,

There is only one $20.00 hazardous fee on the order, regardless of how many boxes we ship the order in.

The shipping cost of backorder is allocated. An example of this would be if your shipping cost is $16.95, we might use $8.95 shipping to send your in stock items now , and save the remaining $8.00 for your backordered item(s). Keep in mind that we do not charge for the item or it's shipping cost , until your backorder has been shipped to you .

If you have further questions, please contact us at 1-800-237-8888 or at our online chat room at:
http://cabelas.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/cabelas.cfg/php/enduser/chat.php

Have a great day !
Shelley
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I've not gotten any of the primers that I ordered from them yet but I have gotten all the powder. It came in 2 orders and I've still not been charged all of the HazMat fee yet. Hope this helps.

ST
 
Over the last few months everyone has also said "be quick" and "check back often" with the local gun stores.
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Time to go mail order then. All the primers I've gotten recently have been from either Grafs or MidwayUSA. Buy 5k, and with Hazmat & shipping, but without sales tax and you're still on track.

I hear Johnny coming any minute...
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This still looks like a pretty good discussion to me... people are still providing information on how to get primers, what's not working for them, and all the various reasons they're harder to get these days.
 
There are obviously multiple factors in the primer shortage but people buying EVERYTHING on the shelf is just plain rude.

I didn't say what someone "needed" I just think it's pretty obvious that people don't "need" HUGE quantities of primers and powder and bullets. We need enough to go to the range and when times are tough it would be kind to take a break on the shelf grabbing greed and let some other folks shoot too. It's nice some of you have enough components right now and can go to the range every week for a year and shoot 1k rounds a week but it's crap when guys like Colorado can't get any at all because you folks cleaned the shelves off in a matter of 20 minutes.

That is jerky no matter how you try to rationalize it. 5k isn't hoarding, usually, but when there is only 10k on the shelve and 2 guys get it! That is... well, it's just not right. Look, I have enough ammo/components for about 5-6 months. In 2 I plan to start looking and out of decency when I see a shelf of ?k I'm not taking most/more than I need/or all of it because "it's hard to find and I better get mine". I plan to let some other folks shoot too and you better believe if the guy behind me grabs everything on the shelf I'll say the very thing I'm saying right here to him. Guys like Colorado want to shoot too.

If you can't agree with that I personally think you're a pretty bad person.
 
If you can't agree with that I personally think you're a pretty bad person.
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I can agree that if you buy stuff you DON'T need just so others can't get them, yeah, you're a pretty bad person. But if you need 'em, get 'em. That doesn't make you a bad person. It's the motivation for your buying them, not whether you take all that's on the shelf or not that determines what kind of person you are.

It all goes back to what I've been saying...primers are out there to be had, without paying scalpers prices. You just have to work at it. Everybody in the whole country had an EQUAL opportunity the other day to buy WLP primers from Midway (and several other types over the last 3-4 weeks), or Wolf primers from just about anybody. If they didn't do it it's not my problem.

Guys like Colorado want to shoot too.
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Then, knowing the situation all along, they ought to think more than a couple days in advance. You can't walk into a gun store, KNOWING there's a shortage of primers, and be genuinely surprised and upset to find none on the shelf.

people buying EVERYTHING on the shelf is just plain rude.
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If they need the primers they're just lucky (or have put forth the effort), not rude.
 
Personally I don't care if someone buys 10,000 primers. I honestly don't care if one person buys 50,000 primers. It's their business. I don't whine about what other people do and I'm not whining about the difficulty of finding primers. I'd like to be shooting 500 rounds per month but I have drastically cut back because I feel it's important to keep ample loaded ammo and ample ammo reloading components on hand. Thanks for the idea about getting in line at Graf's. I think that's what I'll do cause I'm having no luck buying locally or online.
 
Thanks for the idea about getting in line at Graf's.
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Make sure you sign up for in stock notifications at all the online retailers you can find. With MidwayUSA, sometimes they send the email before they show up as in stock, so if you get the email on your blackberry or otherwise immediately and you go to the page and they show out of stock, don't give up. Stick around and refresh the page frequently for 10 minutes or so.
You can also enter the URL for product listing pages (for sites that include all pertinent information in the URL) into a site like http://www.changedetection.com/ You can set up a free account that will email or SMS you when they detect a change on the page. I got the text message and the email from Midway almost simultaneously--about 2 minutes after the email was sent.

As a side note, Powder Valley currently has several types of Wolf primers in stock.
 
Got my order in at Graf's for 5000 CCI. I think the total was $136 after hazmat and shipping. Thanks again for the recommendation.
 
On another note, I had previously ordered 1-2k of several different primers on the same order from Graf's. They got one in (Federal SPP), called me and said, hey, we have your 1k primers you ordered, but would you take 5k so you're not paying $20 hazmat for $30 in primers? Naturally I said that'd be fine. The last conversation I had with someone at Graf's their feeling was that Federals were coming in at the steadiest pace, followed by Winchester and then CCI.
 
I didn't say what someone "needed" I just think it's pretty obvious that people don't "need" HUGE quantities of primers and powder and bullets.
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It's not a question of "need", it's a question of "desire". I have been overseas quite a bit in the former Soviet Union, and the last time I looked, this here is the good 'ol USA. Nobody tells us what, when, and how much to buy.

Don
 
It's not a question of "need", it's a question of "desire".
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True, but when people buy all of them (like 12 thousand) right in front of you, and you ask them if you can buy a hundred, and they reply with "sure, 6 bucks," then that makes me desire to punch them.
 
I have bought primers at local gun shows, LPmag LP CCI Federal etc. all for hand guns and some small and Large rifle, If I was a real hog I could have purchased 20,000 primer but instead I bought 5K did not want to contribute to the frenzy just like the gas in the 70"s
 
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