Where do you get your lead?

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jaybrown

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Hey guys. I called around to tire shops and asked if they had any used wheel weights that they want to get rid of or sell. My question was met with alot of resistance. I dont know if the people though that I was checking up on them or what. Found one place that would sell it for $15 for a 3 gallon bucket. Had one place give me 40lbs for free. So I guess I have one good free connection. Where do you get your lead? Maybe I'm not thinking of all the places I could. The 15 buck for that bucket might not be a bad deal either. Any imput would be great.

thanks.
 
Small tire shops are going to be your best bet (closest to correct, for pistol bullets) if they have a balance machine. The big stores already have companies that recycle lead and they pay. Lead is at a premium right now, so if you have a connection you will want to “grease the wheels” so your friendship is a lasting one. Plumbers are an excellent source, if you want soft lead. Printers, if they still run older equipment, will some times part with Linotype lead. I have even used solder for circuit boards, mixed with plumber’s lead to make bullets. The most exotic lead I have used came from the lining of an X-ray room. When you start mixing lead use the expected bullet weight to get you close to the correct blend. For example, with pure silver solder a 230grn bullet will weigh 210grn+- (hard & almost no leading); however, if you use pure lead it will come out at 240+-(soft & most leading). They will also shrink differently (.451 to .458 diameter at the extreme). You can make bullets a little harder by quenching them in water when hot out of the mold. Unfortunately you loose a lot when you size, because pure lead comes out of the mold larger than the harder alloys, so you work the lead more making it soft again. It’s fun to play with, just remember to wash yourself and clothes after. Always keep children away from contaminated areas and use proper (way more than enough) ventilation. I would also suggest adding lead testing in your yearly physical, they won’t test for it unless you ask (if you shoot you should do this anyway).
 
That bit about fishing sinkers vs bullets has some merit.

One tire shop even asked me "you are not making bullets, now, are you?"
 
I no longer cast bullets, but am "lucky" enough to live fairly close to a scrap metal place (obviously not Beverly Hills.) At this place I told them I wanted lead. They asked if I wanted lead-lead or wheelweight lead. I told them wheelweight. They directed me to the pile of wheelweights and loaned me a shovel. I shoveled buckets full of the stuff and drove out. They weighed my car going in and going out. Weight difference times price of what you got equals what you pay. I wish I could quote prices, but it was 5 or 6 years ago. Point is that scrap metal places usually have a section for lead.
 
As the other guys mentioned it used to be any tire shop with either give it to you or sell it for a small fee. The guys at Sears would exchange for a couple of Six-packs. Lately all the name shops have declined as they either have a recycling contract with someone or are worried about the EPA impact. We’re now down to one local tire store at $20 per 20 Gal bucket.

For my BPCRs I’ve broken down and now just buy commercial blended alloy. Last batch was 600 lbs for $400, and it should last a few years.

There's supposed to be a battery recyling place over in MO, so for my next batch I may buy a ton and mix my own. It looks like the stuff isn't getting any cheaper.

Chuck
 
There's supposed to be a battery recyling place over in MO, so for my next batch I may buy a ton and mix my own.

STEP AWAY FROM THE BATTERY LEAD!!!!!

Do NOT use lead from car batteries for casting... In addition to lead, it contains some other, rather nasty components, including ARSENIC.

It would be great if we could use the stuff, but its very,very dangerous to try and do so. I dounbt they'd sell it, anyway, just for this reason.
 
As I recall the bad actor in car batteries is calcium. If calcium - lead - antimony dross is wetted it releases a toxic gas called stibnine.

Also there might be enough residual sufuric acid to cause trouble; and there is probably so much of the lead still tied up as lead sulfate that the yield of metallic lead just by melting battery plates is low.

Most lead contains a little arsenic anyhow.
 
dfaugh,

There’s no risk involved. This is a lead recycling facility. The battery lead is smelted and cleaned by the company. When you take possession, its in near pure lead ingots.

There’s quite a few guys at my club using it as a base for their alloy, every couple of years they go in on a couple tons of the stuff.

Chuck
 
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