The Bushmaster
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Wonder when "Al Jazeera America" will drop the "America" and become "Al Jazeera Radical Islam".
Just my [prejudice] thoughts...
Just my [prejudice] thoughts...
Where To Get Honest New Reporting ??
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Like Midwest, I quit watching TV news a loong time ago. It's the only practical thing I can do, deprive the stations of viewer numbers & hope their advertising revenue reflects it. I have been known to inform business's that I don't watch, for what good that does, but it costs me nothing.
900F
Like Midwest, I quit watching TV news a loong time ago. It's the only practical thing I can do, deprive the stations of viewer numbers & hope their advertising revenue reflects it. I have been known to inform business's that I don't watch, for what good that does, but it costs me nothing.
900F
If I want get an accurate perspective on an international issue I will read at a minimum Al-Jazeera, BBC, and NY Times, and combine what all are saying. If I really want to go in depth I'll add RT (russia today) RFI (radio france international, which is in french) as well as whatever the AP put out and possibly Reuters. For a daily dose I usually just read BBC and al-Jazeera, with some Chicago Tribune on the side for more local stuff. Combining all this together with your own filters and an awareness for key words that indicate speculation or opinion gives a pretty good picture of most situations.
IMO you picked out 3 of the worst choices available. The BBC admitted to being biased a few years back. The Times is a joke but it's a good pair with Al-Jazeera - they both hate the USA.
IMO the best way to get decent news is to let Drudge do the work of filtering stories for you. You can links to a whole lot of papers and the reports he links are generally not opinion disguised as news. Drudge drives the news cycle the way the Times once did.
Other good sources are the London papers, the Times, the Independent and the Daily Mail. The Washington Times is also fairly good. The London papers will print things our own MSM won't touch. Fox was half decent at one time but they are a joke now. They are so open minded their brains fell out. It's the influence of "Birdbrain Bill" O'Reilly. Greta Van Susteren is the best show left on that channel with Bret Baier being fairly good. I can't hack watching O'Reilly. He is so in love with himself it's sickening and he's dumb as a donut. Worse he thinks he's a genius. I've seen him tell people that he's an "intellectual". Yeah maybe on the planet Spengo (in "Mom And Dad Save The World"). Well maybe not. Those guys managed to build a beam to tow people across space in a station wagon.
WALKERs210
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It was my opinion that Al Jerk Around was already pro Radical Islam. This is why it was a surprise to me when I saw it listed on Direct TV as alternative station.
I'm well aware they are biased, and most often against the US. I already have an inherent pro-USA slant, which is why I tend to read news sources which are less likely to confirm my already existing bias. If I want to read only about how the US is a city on a hill I can read VOA, which I occasionally do. However, most of the time I find it most informing to read reports which conflict with my assumptions.
They may be, but Al-Jazeera English has noticeably become less Islamic and more liberal in the last few years and they become more pro profit than they are pro radical Islam. A large percent of the current reporters and writers for Al-Jazeera english are westerners.
Bruno2
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I just saw major news outlets report that the Navy Yard shooter used an AR 15.I believe that was debunked into an 870 and a couple of pistols. I am still not sure what the New Haven shooter used. I heard claims of the AR being used and then I heard claims that the AR was found in the trunk of the car. I am convinced they are going to claim that an AR was used in every shooting rather it was or not just to villainies it.
I hate to say it , but we need something like Al Jazeera US. Something needs to set an example of how the news is reported.
I hate to say it , but we need something like Al Jazeera US. Something needs to set an example of how the news is reported.
I like reading the truth instead of opinion. I know what their opinions are already and I have no real need to hear them repeated. I know there is too much opinion disguised as news in the channels I mentioned but you don't see facts distorted like you do in the MSM which includes the Times and the BBC. Again the BBC admitted to doing this. That wacky Muslim news outlet has a totally distorted view of everything. There are scant few facts there. You will see a lot of propaganda.
I'd like to point out an example of their propaganda here. In a report about the Kansas U. professor who said the children of NRA members should be murdered Al Jerkzea saw fit to include a comment from an obscure blog which stated in part, " In general, a board of regents has no business evaluating the public comments of anyone on public policy matters..." Of course there is no such freedom in the Muslim world at all and people often lose their head over comments that go against the Muslim line. That makes their comment propaganda because they are insinuating that they support more freedom for professors to make outrageous comments about killing children. What they actually support is the killing of American children in any fashion and of any political connection. It is blatant propaganda in fact. I have no use for it.
Sam1911
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Now that's an interesting comment. The one good thing about social media is access to/by all. Whereas it is very difficult to get your/our own version of truth out through main stream/old model news outlets, we all could be spreading our own version of truth through social media. While it isn't exactly a level playing field, it is a lot closer to one than us trying to compete with broadcast news.
There's a lot of dumb noise out there, but that's democracy for you.
The Bushmaster
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Old addage...
Believe nothing of what you hear...
Believe very little of what you read...
And only half of what you see...
Believe nothing of what you hear...
Believe very little of what you read...
And only half of what you see...
Sam Cade
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Al-Jazeera remains a Qatari owned organization but they have recently launched a specific US American targeted channel.
http://america.aljazeera.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_Media_Network
Sam1911
Moderator Emeritus
Based on what we now know about memory and the mind, especially during traumatic events, that's a HORRIBLY flawed source for factual information!
...Yeah, you literally can't trust what you (think you) see.
Like a few others, I literally stopped watching ALL news. I have weather on my phone and any gun news I get from THR or emails from Pro gun groups. Occasionally when I find something out from THR or Co-workers I look the news story up myself but that's it.
My perception of the world and the people in it got significantly better and more positive after I stopped watching the news.
So my point here is, no news outlet is "honest" and in my eyes no news is good news
My perception of the world and the people in it got significantly better and more positive after I stopped watching the news.
So my point here is, no news outlet is "honest" and in my eyes no news is good news
Tom609
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I just got this email and thought it might help sort things out...
An Easy Guide to Newspapers
1. The Wall Street Journal is read by the people who run the country.
2. The Washington Post is read by people who think they run the country
3. The New York Times is read by people who think they should run the country, and who are very good at crossword puzzles.
4. USA Today is read by people who think they ought to run the country but don’t really understand The New York Times. They do, however, like their statistics shown in pie charts.
5. The Los Angeles Times is read by people who wouldn’t mind running the
country, if they could find the time, and if they didn’t have to leave Southern
California to do it.
6. The Boston Globe is read by people whose parents used to run the country and did a poor job of it, thank you very much.
7. The New York Daily News is read by people who aren’t too sure who’s running the country and don’t really care as long as they can get a seat on the train.
8. The New York Post is read by people who don’t care who is running the country as long as they do something really scandalous, preferably while intoxicated.
9. The Miami Herald is read by people who are running another country, but need the baseball scores.
10. The San Francisco Chronicle is read by people who aren’t sure if there is a
country or that anyone is running it; but if so, they oppose all that they stand
for. There are occasional exceptions if the leaders are handicapped, minority,
feminist, atheist dwarfs who also happen to be illegal aliens from any other
country or galaxy, provided of course, that they are not Republicans.
11. The National Enquirer is read by people trapped in line at the grocery
store.
12. The Denver Post is read by people who have recently caught a fish and need something to wrap it in.
An Easy Guide to Newspapers
1. The Wall Street Journal is read by the people who run the country.
2. The Washington Post is read by people who think they run the country
3. The New York Times is read by people who think they should run the country, and who are very good at crossword puzzles.
4. USA Today is read by people who think they ought to run the country but don’t really understand The New York Times. They do, however, like their statistics shown in pie charts.
5. The Los Angeles Times is read by people who wouldn’t mind running the
country, if they could find the time, and if they didn’t have to leave Southern
California to do it.
6. The Boston Globe is read by people whose parents used to run the country and did a poor job of it, thank you very much.
7. The New York Daily News is read by people who aren’t too sure who’s running the country and don’t really care as long as they can get a seat on the train.
8. The New York Post is read by people who don’t care who is running the country as long as they do something really scandalous, preferably while intoxicated.
9. The Miami Herald is read by people who are running another country, but need the baseball scores.
10. The San Francisco Chronicle is read by people who aren’t sure if there is a
country or that anyone is running it; but if so, they oppose all that they stand
for. There are occasional exceptions if the leaders are handicapped, minority,
feminist, atheist dwarfs who also happen to be illegal aliens from any other
country or galaxy, provided of course, that they are not Republicans.
11. The National Enquirer is read by people trapped in line at the grocery
store.
12. The Denver Post is read by people who have recently caught a fish and need something to wrap it in.
9MMare
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I've had to take trainings regarding bias and 'sensitive issues & the public' as a park ranger.
Every person and every media stream is biased. It's natural and unavoidable. You can recognize it, even in yourself. It's up to each person to examine a variety of perspectives and weigh them against known facts and observations.
The more you can leave your own agenda (bias) out of it, the more you will learn. THis doesnt mean you will change your mind (personally I think alot of people are afraid of learning things that might make them change their minds) but it will provide you with the most complete picture and you can make the most informed decision.
It's just silly to suck up info from sources that you are comfortable with. If nothing else, whatever happened to "know thine enemy?"
Every person and every media stream is biased. It's natural and unavoidable. You can recognize it, even in yourself. It's up to each person to examine a variety of perspectives and weigh them against known facts and observations.
The more you can leave your own agenda (bias) out of it, the more you will learn. THis doesnt mean you will change your mind (personally I think alot of people are afraid of learning things that might make them change their minds) but it will provide you with the most complete picture and you can make the most informed decision.
It's just silly to suck up info from sources that you are comfortable with. If nothing else, whatever happened to "know thine enemy?"
JustinJ
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Was the irony intentional?
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