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Who can refute this libelous firearm-related statement the fastest?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Durandal, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. Durandal

    Durandal New Member

    I read Slate habitually, and I take the good articles with the bad. I usually like Emily Yoffe's "Dear Prudence" section but today she reprinted something that had me flipping my keyboard in disgust.


    My first impression upon reading that first sentence was "What the flippin' hell do you have five firearms for in that case, are you running a museum?!".

    The statements of the gun instructor similarly had me scratching my head in disbelief. I can't recall the statistic but I do seem to recall that the amount of "accidental discharges of a firearm" were much lower than 99%.

    Similarly, the final statement "Nonsense—even police shoot the wrong people because of adrenaline, fear, confusion and they are trained and ready for it.". Really? Every time? How do they keep it out of the news so well?! Why haven't we done something about this already and disarmed them?!

    Emily Yoffe's only reply was "Hear hear for responsible gun ownership." I'd like to think I'm a responsible fellow, but no ammunition, plus gunlocks in my opinion is not "responsible gun ownership". It's a very expensive paperweight. (Presumably this lovely couple would wield said shotguns like clubs and pistol-whip with their handguns if the situation ever called for that?)
  2. natman

    natman Well-Known Member

    First it's not libelous - no one's reputation was sullied, except maybe the author's. It's just not true.

    The 99% quote is of course ridiculous.
  3. Justin

    Justin Moderator Staff Member

    I know this is going to come as a shock, but sometimes people will post things on the internet that are untrue. In this case, claiming that an instructor told them to keep all guns locked up or that 99% of the time people will shoot themselves, or even that they attended a safety class or own guns.
  4. Durandal

    Durandal New Member

    Good to know, I'll cancel the civil suit I had pending.

    And sometimes it's just hyperbole. It was easy for me to scream "BULL****" at the computer, but for some reason this one annoyed me so much I had to post it.
  5. CoRoMo

    CoRoMo Well-Known Member

    Either he's a complete moron, or I'm in the 99th percentile of gun owners. I'll accept both to be true.
  6. TexasRifleman

    TexasRifleman Moderator Emeritus

    I've just come to the conclusion that a good portion of humanity is just plain stupid.
  7. Guy de Loimbard

    Guy de Loimbard Well-Known Member

    99% eh? I'd say 99% of people I know who own guns haven't shot themselves. I only know one person who has (shot himself in the foot, literally) , and I'll bet he won't do that again. Among the people I know who own guns, noone has had an intruder take the gun away from them and use it against them, either.

    As far as the statement about shooting in the middle of the night, I shoot accurately when I'm awake. I CAN wake up easily in the middle of the night. Occasionally it happens, usually to something making a noise that I'm not used to hearing in the middle of the night. This morning I woke up (wide awake, not groggy) at 6:00 on the dot even though the alarm did not go off (set incorrectly). What the author of this piece needs to realize is that not everybody is as clumsy, overparanoid, and as heavy of a sleeper as she is.
  8. ClickClickD'oh

    ClickClickD'oh Well-Known Member

    Hmmm... 99% of 100,000,000 fireams would be... 99,000,000 accidental gun deaths... just a wee bit higher than the 30,000 total gun deaths, much less the actual 700ish.
  9. chris in va

    chris in va Well-Known Member

    Let's not forget most SD scenerios don't involve pulling the trigger.
  10. Titan6

    Titan6 member

    People put stuff on the internet that isn't true? That's it I am calling Al Gore!
  11. Detachment Charlie

    Detachment Charlie Well-Known Member

    Did you know that 87.3% of ALL statistics are made-up on the spot?:rolleyes:
  12. divemedic

    divemedic Well-Known Member

    If there is a 99% chance that a person can take a gun away from its owner and use it against them, I don't need guns. When I am confronted by an assailant, I will simply disarm him and shoot him.
  13. Rockwell1

    Rockwell1 member

    What makes you think Prudie (or whoever is ghostwriting the column these days) didn't write that letter herself just to push her agenda?
  14. cchris

    cchris Well-Known Member

    99 people out of a group of 100 strategically selected people who have guns for home defense have shot themselves or a loved one on accident.

    That means 99% of people who have guns for home defense do more damage than good!!!

    By that logic, 99% of guns* are used to commit crimes.

    *"99%" refers to guns whose serial numbers were connected to drive-by shootings.
  15. Shung

    Shung Well-Known Member

    Your husband and yourself should find another hobby then..
  16. hanno

    hanno Well-Known Member

    Don't allow yourself to be put on the defensive with made up crap like the 99% fairy dust.

    When you see a number like that ask the proponent to show you their data that backs up the 99% figure. Unless they do with a reputable peer reviewed study, it means nothing.
  17. Superpsy

    Superpsy Well-Known Member

    ha! you beat me to it Charlie.
  18. Readyrod

    Readyrod Well-Known Member

    If that 99% statistic is true then we should arm all the criminals and they can shoot themselves accidentally. Crime problem solved.
  19. Vern Humphrey

    Vern Humphrey Well-Known Member

    "Slate" is a left-wing production whose writers apparently average about 12 years old -- and are a bit behind their contemporaries in maturity.:rolleyes:
  20. Gamera

    Gamera Well-Known Member


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