Who else.........

[wdlsguy]

AR-15 carbine stoked with 45 gr JHP.

 

[CB900F]

Mattw;

OK, let's do the numbers. A very reasonable energy figure for a .22 rimfire is 100 ft lbs of energy at household distances. Forty grain bullet at approx. 1100 fps will do.

Let's contrast that with a 125 gr bullet from a .357 magnum traveling at 1400+ fps. In this case, a very reasonable figure will be 550 ft lbs of energy.

Then, please consider that the armor is going to make it almost certain that a maximum energy dump is going to take place; no overpenetration considerations here.

Therefore, my thoughts are that no matter how hopped up the invader may be, he's not going to be effective after taking C.O.M. hits.

A typical ball-peen hammer weighs 1 pound. I wonder what the energy level is when we give a gorilla a 4lb machinist's maul & let him swing for the fences? Or, who's willing to put on body armor, lay on a concrete floor & let a 10 pound weight be dropped on their chest from 55 feet above them?

Why, I think the force of my argument may actually sweep the B/G off his feet!

900F

 

[chaim]

I don't really keep a rifle loaded up.

I figure most likely there won't be a home invasion with someone wearing body armor. If they do, in addition to a handgun I keep either a shotgun or my .45LC Winchester 94 (a pistol caliber carbine doesn't count as a rifle for body armor penatration) and I figure the extra barrel length should aid me in gaining a headshot should I need to.

I do keep a rifle semi-ready however. I live in MD so I would not want to use my AR (not PC enough- way to EBR looking, I'm quite sure it wouldn't go over very well with prosecutors and juries around here). I live in a 'burb where the neighbors are pretty close so I wouldn't want anything bigger than .223/5.56. So, I don't keep anything loaded. However, for certain emergencies that called for it I could put my SKS into action fairly quickly- unzip the rifle case it is usually kept in and load in 10 of the 100 rounds I keep ready on stripper clips.

 

[coonan357]

rifle , nope slugs and buck yes and slugs to the chest and pellets to the groin area ,( was told a head shot in illinois is considered murder) no matter what the circumsances but if it need be 2 to the chest one to the head . rather be tried by 12 then carried by 6 .

 

[cslinger]

Let's see.

Tier 1
Wife and I
Some kind of handgun .45, 9mm, .357 magnum etc.

Tier 2
Wife and I
Shotguns 12 gauge.
Benelli Nova, 2 870s and a Beretta 1201fp

Tier 3 TSHRHTF and the shottys are out of ammo.
Wife and I
2 AR15s, M1A squad scout

Tier 4 Holy Hell Society Just Broke Down
Wife and I
We have ammunition for every single firearm we own.