Who packs heat after they've had a few?

Who packs heat after they've had a few?

  • I do.

    Votes: 54 12.7%

  • Sometimes I do.

    Votes: 83 19.5%

  • I never do that.

    Votes: 288 67.8%
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If I know I'm going somewhere that I'll want to drink. . .
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I look at it the opposite way. Liquor is not important to me. If I have to choose between being armed and drinking (away from home), I choose being armed and forgo all alcohol. I consider anything more than a sip of wine excessive if I am armed.

OTOH, while at home, I consider one drink (a shot, glass of wine, can of beer) a slight maybe.
 
I'll drink a beer or two with dinner and still carry. If it's going to be more than that, the gun gets unloaded and locked up. There IS such a thing as responsible drinking.
 
It still amazes me that people will argue that a reasonable person should not have the right to grab a gun to defend their own property after having a few drinks.
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This is a good quote.

So if you were in the privacy of your own home, you just had two beers mowing your lawn and two more while at the dinner table. BG thinks your wife is alone, forcibly enters your home and attacks your wife while your working in the backyard........You hear it and ....... What do you do? You just had a few.

I don't drink. meaning I don't purchase alcohol. I know it's Highroad to not mix guns and the devils brew. But even If I was hammered in my own home I'd be defending myself & family.
 
Now I know I will most likely get a beating for this but this is what I did to find out some info a few years back.
A few friends and myself went to a firing range for 1 reason that was to find out how many mixed drinks would make me a danger to others. We set it up a week before with the owner and a LEO that we new.
1st i went and drew my .357 and shot all 6 shots from 10 feet away then my .22lr from 50 feet away. I then went and had 1 drink waited 10 minutes then shot the same thing. we went thru and i drank 10 drinks in all over 2 1/2 hours. I shot pretty good up to about 4 or 5 drinks. then my group well went to %^$%. I did this with a LEO, the owner, and 3 friends right there with me to make sure I was safe at all times.
Now i know I was under control of others and there was no real problems or real danger to others or myself. I also know that it would of been diff if it was a real world danger but it told me what my aim some what would be. If it was a real problem the stress would of been a lot more. but hay it was fun and we all learned a few things. 1 of the things i learned was drinking a guns do not really mix I am a big boy now (6 FT. and 225 lbs) and I don't get mad when I am drunk and it take more than 1 or 2 drinks to get me drunk BUT the 2 should not be mixed the last group was so bad not all of the rounds hit paper. Now I do not remember all of the rounds where they went due to it has been a few years but I do remember it was NOT all good.

I did have the owner and a Leo with me to make it safe I would say if y'all do drink and carry just be safe and do the right thing. I can not say for all of you not to or tell you it will be safe but just be careful.
John
P.s. I love testing myself in this kind of a way.
 
Yes, I am a responsible adult and I do not drink to get "drunk".
I will enjoy a glass of wine, or a beer with my steak, while out to dinner with my family. And I will be armed while doing so.

I will not carry while intoxicated, but I will carry while I consume insignificant amounts of alcohol.

Zero tolerance rules are for the weak minded that are strained when asked to interject common sense into a situation.

If you are unable to consume one serving of alcohol, which will raise your BAC to cough syrup levels, and then go home and enjoy your evening... Then follow the zero tolerance rule.

If you are a responsible adult, have an adult beverage... Studies say that it does a body good.
 
If you are unable to consume one serving of alcohol, which will raise your BAC to cough syrup levels
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I'd venture to say that cough syrup is even more of an intoxicant than an alcoholic beverage. Granted, I don't consume cough syrup (or any other drugs, OTC or prescription).
 
Just as you have to do a thorough self evaluation to determine if you are responsible enough to carry a gun in the first place, you have to do the same with alcohol. Some people just shouldn't carry guns. Some people just shouldn't drink. Some people shouldn't do either. Yet I feel some of us are fine. It depends on what one is honestly capable of.
I see lots of preaching about how guns and alcohol NEVER mix. Yet, this is ignoring the differences and capabilities of each individual and blanketing all with the stereotype that we all become dangerous and irresponsible when imbibing.
I have been raised around guns and beer my entire life. Every fall, everyone I know takes their vacation off for deer season, and there's about ten of us who get together, drink heavily, and deer hunt. I've had friends and family pass out while in the woods.

"Where's Steve?"

"I dunno. Let's go check his blind."

Sure enough. There's Steve, surrounded by beer cans, out like a light. Someone carry Steve's gun. I'll carry Steve.

Gun safety has been drilled into us all for so long, that we instinctively know that we don't do things differently just because we've had a few. We don't start acting macho. We don't start experimenting. We don't handle our firearms any differently than when we're sober. I will admit that the potential for accidents increases dramatically. I've seen dropped shotguns go barrel first into the mud. I've seen rifles fall off truck roofs as Ron drives back to the barn. I've also seen people fall down stairs and split their heads open without a firearm in sight. You can do stupid things and die just as easily without a gun as with one.
As for myself, I have always been responsible, inebriated or not. I have never became a threat to anyone else's safety while intoxicated because I have performed a thorough self evaluation, and know that while I am more prone to accidents while intoxicated, I do not compromise safety. I've been around it my entire life.
Have I been places where everyone hunts sober? Yes. Have I been places where the guns are locked up before the alcohol comes out. Sure. I have no problem abiding by another's rules when at another's event. It's all in the amount of comfort you have with yourself and the individuals around you. If I'm at your house and you say "no alcohol", that's the way it is and I have no problem with it. But if you are at my house, and you see Pete drinking a beer with a pistol on his side, you can do whatever you like, have one yourself, lock up your gun before drinking, preach about our irresponsibility, or just leave. There are only four rules that will be enforced.
 
What's up with all these common sense posts lately?

Well said, Superlite.

Biker
 
Like I said in my last post I have no issue with people who carry around me and drink even though I dont drink. But as I also said if you ever have to use your weapon and alcohol is in the equation no matter how insignificant the amount your legal issues will increase, being legally intoxicated even it's clearly a life or death self defense situation and I would imagine you're in deep crap no matter how responsible you are.;)
 
Alcohol and guns. At the same time.

A recipe for tragedy or at least a serious attempt at contention for the "Darwin Award".
 
...it makes me upset to see/hear people handle firearm while drinking...
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Just like the thread title says. Do you carry after you've had a drink or two?
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If you read the OPs question, it was: Do you carry after you've had a drink or two?

Not: Do you handle your firearm after you get fall-down drunk?

Not even: Do you handle your firearm after a drink or two?

Do you carry?

I don't get fall-down drunk.

I can keep my gun in my pocket holster and have a couple of beers. So what?

If I'm in a circumstance where my license is in jeapordy for carrying at all (e.g., a bar in my state) that would be the limit.

If I'm at home, or spending the night with a friend (thus, no driving involved) I might have a couple more. So what?

I'm not handling my firearm under those circumstances with these two exceptions:

1.) If assaulted, I have every right to defend myself and will do so to the best of my ability regardless of state of mind. And I repeat...I don't get fall-down drunk.

2.) when done for the night, I will very carefully remove my firearm in its holster and set it on the night stand.

Common sense, moderation, the four rules...it's not that difficult. If those three things are not a part of your everyday consciousness to begin with...then perhaps you should re-think your relationship with both firearms and alcohol.
 
Like I said in my last post I have no issue with people who carry around me and drink even though I dont drink. But as I also said if you ever have to use your weapon and alcohol is in the equation no matter how insignificant the amount your legal issues will increase, being legally intoxicated even it's clearly a life or death self defense situation and I would imagine you're in deep crap no matter how responsible you are.
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And? Is taking the death option better?

Alcohol and guns. At the same time.

A recipe for tragedy or at least a serious attempt at contention for the "Darwin Award".
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If you have a couple drinks with your dinner out do you ask for the plastic cutlery since taking a knife to the steak would be far too dangerous?
 
"a drink or two" is not defined as intoxcation in this thread, though some seem to assume they're the same thing.

We run into this culture clash every time this issue comes up. For some folks, there is no such thing as drinking apart from intoxication. To them the point of drinking *is* intoxication. For others "a drink" is a form of food and has nothing to do with intoxication.
 
Cosmoline I clearly understand the difference my point is two drinks in a half hour you will fail a breath test and get a dwi. Why risk the legal troubles if you have to use your firearm. We all know two or even three is nothing but what if you happen to get a prosecuter that is anti gun and finds out you had a couple drinks then had to defend yourself, he will surely question your judgement etc. Even if I still drank I'm not willing to gamble going to jail for a good shoot for a couple drinks,murphys law definitely applies to me.
 
The reason for carrying a gun is because you think you might need it to defend your life or your loved ones.

If you think that, it doesn't make sense to impair your faculties with alcohol.
 
my point is two drinks in a half hour you will fail a breath test and get a dwi.
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That's complete nonsense. What you are drinking, the food you are eating and of course your physical size make a huge difference in blood alcohol content.

what if you happen to get a prosecuter that is anti gun and finds out you had a couple drinks then had to defend yourself, he will surely question your judgement etc.
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The ONLY place I drink more than a single pint of beer over food is my home. If the DA wants to bring up the fact that I was enjoying a glass of Laphroaig in my own home at night when an armed intruder broke down the door and I shot him, he can certainly try to do so. I'm not talking about getting blotto at some bar, picking a fight and then getting justly thrown in the slammer. I never drink enough to impact my judgment so much I can't tell if someone is breaking into my house or not.

I am *ALWAYS* armed unless it's specifically illegal to be armed (airport, court). If I were to refrain from drinking while armed I would never drink, or go through some absurd practice of locking up my iron when I sip some malt or beer. And if I were such a child I couldn't trust myself to have unlocked firearms while I drink, I would not trust myself to have either booze or firearms.

If you think that, it doesn't make sense to impair your faculties with alcohol.
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Many things impair your faculties. Sleep, lack of sleep, anxiety, distraction, listening to music, talking to a spouse, watching TV. All of these are distractions that keep you from being totally aware of your environment.
 
An average size person 160 to 190 lbs that does two 1oz shots of 80 proof liquor in a half hour will blow a .08 to .09 if I'm correct .08 as stupid as it sounds will get you a dui in most states. Like I said it's just not worth it.
 
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