Why 2 rounds fired in a new Gun??

[38 SUPERFANATIC]

I recently bought a brand new 38 Super (nickle plated) when I returned to finalize the paperwork the salesperson commmented the following, "huh this is funny I have never seen two rounds fired on a brand new gun, they usually just fire one." I saw two empty shells in the box of my new 38 Super. Any ideas to why my gun was fired twice? Thanks.

 

[tkopp]

The first round squibbed and they wanted to be sure it was the ammo and not the gun!

 

[gofastman]

the guy must not sell a lot of guns, almost all glocks come with two empty shell cases

 

[wally]

Its to get you started with reloading

The two empty cases in a sealed envelope is for sales in states that require some kind of fired case database, Maryland comes to mind, since the maker can't really know in advance where they might end up for sale, its easier to just include the cases with all the pistols made. Most new guns have come like this for the past few years unless the maker is willing to ignore potential sales in those states.

 

[easyg]

At least you know that the pistol worked twice before it departed from the maker's factory.

 

[JoeMal]

the guy must not sell a lot of guns, almost all glocks come with two empty shell cases

This is what I was thinking....

 

[ichiban]

Only two rounds in the magazine when it went full auto?

 

[Madcap_Magician]

The two empty cases in a sealed envelope is for sales in states that require some kind of fired case database, Maryland comes to mind, since the maker can't really know in advance where they might end up for sale, its easier to just include the cases with all the pistols made. Most new guns have come like this for the past few years unless the maker is willing to ignore potential sales in those states.

This.

 

[Drail]

No, that's so they can say that they "broke it in" for you. Without spending too much on it. (Be sure to replace those cases with someone else's cases when you register it). And make real sure no one ever gets any of your brass.

 

[shotgunjoel]

No, it's so they know that it cycles. When the first round fires they want to be sure that the second one would load properly and prove that the gun is functioning as normal before they ship it off only to get returned to the factory.

 

[Nasty]

The cases are for States (or Countries) that required them for registration. If your locale required it, one would have been delivered to them.

In Ohio, both are included in the box.

No function testing routinely for every individual firearm at the factory...too many variables involved. They test the design in R&D and then simply mass reproduce them.

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

I was told that in states that require a database, one is sent to whoever runs the database and the other is sent with the gun for later sale. If you get both it was sold in a state that doesn't require such nonsense.

 

[Landric]

At least you know that the pistol worked twice before it departed from the maker's factory.

That would explain why Taurus guns don't come with fired brass.

 

[DickM]

No function testing routinely for every individual firearm at the factory...too many variables involved. They test the design in R&D and then simply mass reproduce them.

I did the S&W factory tour last year. They said that after assembly every revolver is fired 3 times to test function, and every semi-auto is tested with one full magazine, then cleaned and boxed for shipment. Don't know what other manufacturers may or may not do.

 

[group17]

The nice part is the date on the bag tells you when it was fired at the factory.
Easy way to tell the date of manufacture on new and used guns if its still in the case.

 

[38 SUPERFANATIC]

thank you guys for all your info and advice really do appreciate it...

 

[RETG]

Beretta guns made in the USA have one full magazine fired through the gun before shipping. If military, two full magazines.

 

[REAPER4206969]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2rLAWksyMQ

CZ even comes with the target print out.

 

[Mike OTDP]

Almost all firearms are proof-fired with heavy loads before they leave the factory. Many foreign governments have required this for 300+ years...the U.S. doesn't, but the manufacturers self-regulate.

Some firms ship test targets. The top target pistol makers do so - they buyers want proof that their new $2,000 acquisition will perform to specification.

 

[duns]

My Walther P99C AS was test fired at the factory. They sent me the perforated paper target. The shooters name is given and the range - 15 meters. They don't say how many shots but it looks like 5. There is about 2" between the two holes that are furthest apart and the other 3 shots went more or less through the same hole in the paper. It is not stated whether a rest was used. One fired case was provided in the envelope.

 

[Owen]

No function testing routinely for every individual firearm at the factory...too many variables involved. They test the design in R&D and then simply mass reproduce them.

False

 

[earlthegoat2]

Who says they dont fire them a few time, like 10 and then just grab a casing or two and put them in there.

You dont really believe they only shoot the gun once at the factory do you?

I hope they do it at least more than once.

I have heard S&W shooters the revolvers 3 times. More if there is trouble.

 

[Drail]

Registering the casings is such a stupid idea. Think about someone picking up your brass at a range and scattering it at a crime scene. Cases collected at the scene should be considered circumstantial evidence and disallowed. How does anyone know where they really came from or how long they've been there?

 

[Nasty]

Then I stand corrected...

But what would a couple of rounds actually "prove" anyway? That under brand new conditions, with a specific type of ammunition, for a particular shooter, it worked at least 3 times?

Seems to be a faulty premise leading to a false conclusion at best.

(Military multiple magazine testing exempted)

 

[RevDerb]

But what would a couple of rounds actually "prove" anyway?

See post #4. It has nothing to do in actuality with function testing. It is in compliance with the requirements of some of the states that are under commie oppression. It's all about power. One more way to track handguns that has not shown to keep a gun out of the hands of a single bad guy but has continued to justify some bureaucrat's existence. Nor has it been shown to have saved a single life. :banghead: