Why are Russian Nagants so damn cheap?

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As to using a Mosin Nagant for self-defense, they are at least formidable hand-to-hand weapons, between their skewer bayonets and small steel buttplates; add in the intimidating sight of a gun with a foot-long sticker on the end, and you're at least doing a lot better than you would be with just bare knuckles.
 
Obsolete surplus military arms are hardly worth more than their scrap value, unless they can be sold to the US.

Most nations do not allow their citizens to own military weapons. Even ours will not allow importation of many types; you can’t bring a full auto machine gun in and sell it to US civilians.

So lets say you have this huge inventory of obsolete bolt rifles. Who is going to buy them when you can purchase obsolete G3’s, AK47’s for less than $10.00? (I made an estimate of $10.00. I do know that in the 80’s the Army was selling refurbished, serviceable M1911’s for less than $5.00 a pistol, to foreign governments.)

When the Democrats block the importation of obsolete Nagants, the price on the world market will drop even more.

But prices will rise for what is in country , until such day when the gun banners confiscate everything.
 
Guess I did pretty good I got a 91/30 last month fpr $89. They are a blast to shoot...Pun intended.
 
SATX:
a friend and I were shooting several rifles and we set up a very large, depleted oxygen tank. It stood about 4 1/2 feet tall. Not a 'bottle', a tank.

His SVT-40 (x54R) with regular tips went all the way through both sides.
My MN 44 with yellow-tip steel core bullets exited with a hole about twice the diameter of the entry.

SlamFire1: Sure, anything can appear possible with our wonderful new govt. "leadership" as for confiscation, but some factors appear to make it doubtful, though I could be wrong.
Not only would huge numbers of law enforcement people (at enormous cost) need to take critical time away from pursuing known criminals, but budgets now are getting so hammered by the financial crisis that we will be lucky if some cities do not layoff some police staff-as crime gets worse.....Some states don't even know how they will fund state employee retirees' medical costs.

Never mind California-really bad (to paraphrase a line in the movie "Bladerunner"), and this is just The Beginning.
The state Reps were locked in the capitol building all night long, forced by Herr Schwarzenegger to negotiate cost cuts due to the really nasty budget default. "Sie mussen verhandeln!"
And the Mexican drug gangs are now operating hit men north of the Texas border, causing carnage inside the Lone Star State. This might involve not only the FBI but various other agencies, taking more time away from normal patrols and investigations. And this is just part of one border state. Citizens will demand that more criminals be caught. If I lived near that border I would keep a handgun or Mini 14/30 in my car.

Feel free to contradict these comments, but it seems that the far-left Lunatics have got what they want for a while.
 
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If I could only have one rifle, it would be a Mosin Nagant. They are the single most reliable weapon platform ever contrived by man, with a round powerful enough to put down any creature in the western hemisphere, and available, cheap ammo, and a good specimen can be had for under $100.

I have an AR-15 and an AK, and if I had to choose one gun to carry into the wilderness and never come back, it would still be the Mosin Nagant. It is a man's rifle, and the only rifle you'll ever need.
 
Shucks. You think the Russian ones are cheap? The Russian ones are expensive. ;)

You ain't seen a Chinese one yet. :D Who knows how many millions of these THEY made.

$35.00 +16.00 shipping...$51.00 delivered to the door. You don't find rifles much cheaper than that.

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anyone wants to guess how mutch a Mosin (or any other cheap surplus rifle) would costs if someone would start building them from scratch again with todays equipment?

same quality and materials uses as in the old days, so no fiberglass or poly stocks allowed?
 
Its funny, Mosin designed the rifle, Nagant the loading mechanisim, and Nagants brother, designed the pistol.

Going by 7.62x54r.com, the round falls between the 30-06 and the .308 in power.

As for accuracy, with some mild massaging- the "3 point touch" bedding system they used to do in the field during the war and I have fired 5 rd groups sub moa when i was trying to. Point is, the limiting factor will be you, not the rifle.

that, and its awesome.
 
One thing is for sure, you dont want to be clubbed by one. THe butt end is plated steel. That along with a hardwood stock can kill if shove comes to shove CQB. The Russians knows best in close quarter combat.

AN advancing army armed with M 44s is a sight to behold . These things firing in unison is like artillery multiplied in earsplitting sound volume. That alone played a psychological effect to scare the enemy.
 
Home defense?

With mine I can keep shots within an inch of each other at 100 yards. But for home defense in a narrow hall...? I guess the pig sticker would keep an intruder at bay... It is a big hunk of wood, better than a baseball bat, and when fired the copper clad bullet is gonna explode the guts of whatever it hits... tested against 1/2 steel plates, it goes clean through at 75 yards.

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I love mine, wouldn't hesitate to use it to hunt anything in North America, and it is intimidating.


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Nice looking weapon there Franco. Sounds like you have a shooter! I like them as well and for the price I think everybody should have at least one. (I have two M38, one M44, and one 91/30)

If a bolt action is the gun you are going to use for self defense it would be hard to go wrong with the M44 with its small size, sturdy build and zombie sticker on the end!

You don't have to be careful with them either. Its best to treat all firearms nicely of course but if you don't, the Moisin Nagant series of rifles can take a lot of abuse and keep banging along. (Note: banging=shooting and/or clubing) :D
 
It's an excellent value, probably the best out there - for a working piece of WWII history that is also a functioning firearm. The 7.62x54r is a very powerful round, akin to the .3006. It is the sniper round fired in the Dragunov. We captured a lot of currently in-use MNs in Iraq by the insurgents.

As others said, tens of millions were manufactured over a few decades before and during WWII.

Buy up as many as you can because they are useful and will never decrease in value. I've already started seeing the market dry up of MNs, so the time to act is now.
 
BAck in the day, the Finn's were $50-85 OTD. They were considered ugly, etc., and other things were much cooler. Back then a decent 98K was $350-450 (and Glocks were all $350-400). Now, Finns are over $300 easy. I will admit, Finns are more interesting because they are more accurate. But, dry up the Russians and their price will double.
 
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