Wife ok with gun for HD not with me carrying CCW

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The presence of a gun means the likelihood (no matter how unlikely) of being around gunfire and flying bullets.

In what sense are you speaking about? "gunfire and flying bullets" sounds like something straight off the Brady Campaign webside. If you meant "gunfire and flying bullets" in the home or in a public place than it is definitely something that the Brady Campaign and it's supporters has fabricated and has somehow pressed upon you. That's like saying that having a fire extinguisher and/or smoke alarm in the house increases the likelihood of a fire ocurring. Or fastening your seatbelt increases the chances of an auto accident. In that sense, I have to say, "Oh, give me a break! Are you going to try to sell me a bridge next?" :scrutiny:

Now, if you are speaking in the sense of shooting at the gun range.... and the family learning how to shoot and discovering that it is fun and rewarding... then I would have to agree with you! :D
 
Some marriages are tough as nails; weathering any storm. Many marriages are not at all, whatsoever. I believe the former is because both members are rational, mature adults without a tendency to let the little things become big things. There are small issues and there are major issues. Knowing the difference, makes all the difference.

If your marriage would fall apart because you chose to carry and she couldn't find a way to rationalize it, you are in the later category. Similarly, if the relationship is damaged because you are unable to carry because of her position, the marriage is not the formerly mentioned type.

Perhaps you are simply an unsafe, undependable, reckless gun owner, and she knows this to be the case. Barring that, carrying or not carrying a firearm for personal protection is a small issue in a marriage.
 
Hmmm

I carried an LCP in the pocket for over a year before my wife even noticed. By the time she did I had the defense of having had it in the pocket for that long without shooting anyone/anything so she just let it drop.
 
The only advice I would have for the OP is to see if you can get the wife to take one or more handgun defense classes. Try to convince her under the guise of the guns being present in the home and the vehicles, and, God forbid, their use should ever be required when you are not there, she would be prepared. Try to investigate the classes offerred beforehand and see if any of them deal more with using the gun in a SD situation in public and steer her towards that one.

I met my fiance on the internet when I was in Iraq. Luckily she grew up in Alaska so was pretty familiar with the idea of carrying a gun for protection. When I explained that I open carried, she was initially curious as to why, and then with further discussion about it she is completely OK with it and her 13 year old daughter just loves it and thinks it's totally :cool:.

We both went to get a car fixed and the guy behind the counter mentioned that he noticed I was carrying and that he had his CPL and was wondering why I didn't have one. I told him that I did have a CPL, then my fiancee completely took over and started explaining to him that I chose to open carry... it was funny watching her kind of getting on his case because he did seem to be expressing an attitude that he was somehow better than me because he had a CPL and carried concealed.
 
I'm sorry for your situation. It is not good to have any issues in marriage that bother one side so much.

One thing is for sure, your wife will not change her mind until she is ready. Pushing the issue will not resolve it.

I had been married for 25 years before my wife one day announced that she wants to learn all there is to be learned about all of our firearms. Prior to that she had no interest at all in guns.

I started from the basics and a couple years later she chose to obtain her CCW and now carries 24/7 the guns she selected, tested and felt most comfortable with.

I can't imagine what I'd have done differently to expedite her change of heart. I'm certain nothing.

I received the usual gun magazines. We talked about the crime. I was involved in competitive shooting. She came to the range a couple of times in 25 years.

Then, one day, the heavens opened ...

Good luck to you both.
 
My wife has the EXACT same position. She feels safer in our home and our car but doesn't want me carrying in public, open or concealed.

So, what do you do? ...carry or not? (Please don't tell us you carry an umbrella instead.)
 
Curious: What would happen if you took your wife to the local range and demonstrated the common distances at which attacks occur (21 feet or less), and what you can do about it, if armed?
 
Slightly jumping tracks, but it ain't the trivial stuff, such as, which way the toilet paper is hung, that is causing the issues in a marriage. That's just a symptom of the real cause.

In any event, it sounds like the OP's wife needs to get educated. Send her off to a defense class for women run by a woman. As for someone's comment about you'll need your CCW .04% of the time - well I bet one would be really really really sorry when they need it and don't have it. But hey - to each their own.


Quoheleth
Dom1104 hit it on the head. Your marriage is #1. I have couple come to see me who let trivial stuff cause major relationship problems (seriously? Which way the toilet paper is hung? Squeezing toothpaste from the middle?). Don't put a CCW between you two. <SNIP>
 
So, what do you do? ...carry or not? (Please don't tell us you carry an umbrella instead.)

I carry,but not all the time. Not because of the wife,just don't always feel the need,I'm working up to full integration.

When I do carry,I just don't say anything, and she knows this. Most of the time she doesn't even notice. She still doesn't want me to but she knows it's important to me so we don't fight about it anymore.

I don't carry an umbrella but I have a pretty good cane (not for decoration)that will whoop up on someone pretty good.
 
Might I ask why one dates, let alone makes a home, with a hoplophobic woman? Surely during the process of courting things such as this come out. And how can such a great difference in political ideology be overcome/pushed aside?

And aren't these the type of women to abuse Lautenburg?
 
Stop trying to "educate" her or win with logic.

Ask her how she feels about it.
 
Might I ask why one dates, let alone makes a home, with a hoplophobic woman?

Because having a happy home with a loving woman who is insane enough to actually want to put up with you for a lifetime is more important than CCW.

Honestly, I would talk to her as I did my own wife, but in the end, it is not worth destroying a happy marriage. While CCW may not actually destroy it, how one treats his wife during that dispute can. The OPs wife has issues with it. If it is important to her, it best be important to him. Just one of those things you need to work through. Certainly was not the toughest thing I have worked through in the 10 years I have been married.
 
I carry,but not all the time. Not because of the wife,just don't always feel the need,I'm working up to full integration.

When I do carry,I just don't say anything, and she knows this. Most of the time she doesn't even notice. She still doesn't want me to but she knows it's important to me so we don't fight about it anymore.

I don't carry an umbrella but I have a pretty good cane (not for decoration)that will whoop up on someone pretty good.
That's exactly what I do! My wife wasn't a big fan of me getting my chl (I sold a gun that was going to buy me my CHL or a WASR-10). But after a couple of car jackings and other violent crimes she was less concerned about me CCing. I never tell her when I'm carrying, she never asks, and we never have an issue about it. This is also a great way to work on your concealment, who better to practice hiding from than someone who thinks you may be packing.
 
My wife is real cool with guns but wasn't crazy about me getting my CCW. I got it anyways and I carry anyways. When she saw how much it meant to me and how serious I was about it, she just stopped talking about it. Now we have a baby. Her stance on carrying has changed monumentally!
An old quote from her:
"Did I just see you put your gun in your pocket? we're going to the farmer's market!"
A recent quote from her:
"I left some room in the right pocket for your pistol."
She was referring to the diaper bag...
 
NMGonzo- awesome.
After 13 years of partnership with my beloved treehugger wife, I finally got her to kill a house sparrow. Pee pee steps! At this rate, I'll get her in the treestand by our 30th anniversary.
 
it is definitely something that the Brady Campaign and

Let's you and I play a little game. Here's the rules: I get to explain how a wife who isn't happy about hubby carrying a gun thinks, and you get to understand that I am not the wife. These are complex rules and I understand how you were having a lot of trouble.
 
I'm not married.....so my opinion may not mean much. But why exactly does your wife have a say in whether YOU carry or not? She shouldn't have a say in what you do as long as it's moral, legal, wise, and in your best interest as a married couple.

Isn't it your responsibility to protect and provide for your family? All it takes is one moment, one drugged-up robber at a random gas station or street corner to wish you were CCW. You should tell her that if you ever get into a bad situation, that she can go toe to toe with the 220lb criminal with a knife; she seems to think she knows best when it comes to protecting the family. Trade a set of responsibilities with her. She protects, you **Insert Chore**.

In my opinion, she should submit to your desire to protect your family. She's letting her irrational fears get in the way of your responsibility. Do you tell her that she can't carry her purse around? Or that you won't go out in public with her if she doesn't lose 15 lbs? To me, it's complete nonsense.

Again, I'm not married.....and my approach might not be the best for anyone intending to stay married. :D
 
She busted me right before Christmas - we were at church practicing the children's Christmas Eve service and we, as a family, we going out shopping afterward. I had my officer 1911 in a IWB rig. She slipped up to my weak side to hug me, slipped her arm around me and "dinged" her knuckles on the heavy frame. Her eyes got big and she said, "You're not!" I nodded and, fortunately, she dropped the conversation until we were in the car. She trhought it ridiculous I carried in the church because nothing probably would happen in our town. My answer was, "You're right - nothing will PROBABLY happen, but that's what they said in Colorado."

I say God bless you for caring enough about your people to do something to protect them.

This story rings very familiar, as I made our senior pastor carrying his big ol' honkin' .45 cal Glock at the Christmas kids program a few years back.

Unfortunately, many Church goers subscribe to the "kumbaya, every body loves everybody, why can't we all get along, people are basically good" philosophy, rather than the message of he Bible.

Jhn 3:20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light
Jhn 15:18 "If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before [it hated] you.
Jhn 15:19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.
15:20 Remember the word that I said to you, 'A servant is not greater than his master.' If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you.

As this country continues to go down the toilet, there is an ever growing tide of animosity being expressed towards not only Christians, but any religious people that "dare" to say this is right and this is wrong.

I applaud my pastor and you for understanding the times and acting wisely in response.

And I am following your example.

And for the O.P. if your wife has a Judeo-Christian bent... then share these verses with her.
 
Chance of actually requiring your CCW - .04 %
Chance of requiring staying married - 100%

Carry a knife, and keep the gun at home till she is comfortable with it.

<I CCW daily but if my wife wasnt happy with it, I would drop down to a big folder in a heartbeat. Not worth hurtin the marriage.>

LOL!
I'm gonna call my insurance company right now and drop my auto insurance. What's the use having liability insurance if the chances of me being liable in an accident are even less that .04%? :scrutiny:

Is being hen pecked more important to you that being prepared to respond to a life threatening event that would undoubtedly include the life of your wife too?

My wife and I have been married for going on 19 years now. She's still anti-gun, just not as much as she used to be. She'll still complain about my guns ever so often, that is, until she sees a news report about how some thugs just robbed and shot an innocent person. I'm her protector and I don't expect a big reward or a pat on the back for that, but I do take my responsibility for her welfare very seriously........even above my own.
 
ej...The fact that she's not totally "anti-gun" is a good start. It's important that you are able to "do what you have to do" in the event that that you do have to...However, the most important thing here is your marriage "first". You may have to take your time with this. Some good advice has been offered already, in reference to pointing out some local instances of self-defense, etc. When my wife and I first got married, she wasn't big on guns...at all! Things have progressed well over the years, and she has seen me take CC classes in three different states, other training as well, and watched me respond to various situations that were possibly very dangerous for us. We've gone from no guns in the house, to a shotgun for HD,to my first handgun for HD, to my first carry gun.... to her first gun(G17) and one day she even surprised me with a new Glock, for a P.I. gig I had years ago. The point is, I didn't pressure her, but worked thru it slowly. Along the way we would periodically go out and shoot every firearm I had. She eventually grew to like them, and began to understand my feelings on all aspects of gun ownership, self defense, CCW, etc..She has watched me become somewhat of a gun fanatic, and expects to see me with a full sized pistol of some sort, Glock, 1911, etc. Now, 25 years later, she has watched me in amazement as I've recently purchased my first two "pocket pistols". When I bought a new S&W 642, she said "you're not a revolver guy" lol... But she understood when I told her I probably wouldn't find another one under $400.00. When I bought the new LCP, she asked 'what are you going to do with that?" (Referencing it's comparatively small size).Now, a safe full of guns later, my long winded point is this...Be patient with her... listen to her... try to involve her..slowly. Don't push..I'll bet she comes around.. ;) Realize of course that the dangers are still out there, while you're waiting...Do what you must to be prepared and try not to totally freak her out.
 
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jbrown50 wrote:

LOL!
I'm gonna call my insurance company right now and drop my auto insurance. What's the use having liability insurance if the chances of me being liable in an accident are even less that .04%?

Is being hen pecked more important to you that being prepared to respond to a life threatening event that would undoubtedly include the life of your wife too?

My wife and I have been married for going on 19 years now. She's still anti-gun, just not as much as she used to be. She'll still complain about my guns ever so often, that is, until she sees a news report about how some thugs just robbed and shot an innocent person. I'm her protector and I don't expect a big reward or a pat on the back for that, but I do take my responsibility for her welfare very seriously........even above my own.

Humm, are you trying to be insulting?

Well I am certainly not "hen pecked" but its a wise man that realizes his wife is half of the "team" of being married. My gun is on my hip right now but if my wife didnt think that was a good idea, its very likely it probably isnt. Or that she needs to be educated more as other people have said. She is a pretty smart woman, if she wasnt I wouldnt have married her.

But honestly, actually using a CCW firearm is EXTREMLY rare. Thats simply a fact. Mindset is everything for staying out of trouble, and I feel almost as well armed with a large folder than I do with a gun. A knife + what little training I have aquired this last month or so is a DEADLY weapon in contact distances, which happens to be where the majority of crime occurs.

I am not advocating going out on the town unarmed, but a gun isnt the ONLY weapon a man has available to him.

Being you wifes protector is a great thing Jbrown, I would just suggest that a gun is not the only way you can do that.

And no wife wants to hear "I will protect you no matter what, and screw what you think about it."

50% of marriages end in divorce. I would assume " who cares what you think" attitudes from the husband end of it... contribute to that statistic, and divorce.... is pricey. Life altering pricey.

The odds of being the 'involved' in violent crime is somewhere near 5% for your entire LIFETIME. Being "involved" and being in a situation where you are in immenent threat to your life and need to draw a weapon are two different things.

I think the chance of dying in a car crash is somewhere near 2%.

Its bad form to go accusing people you never met of being "hen pecked" on the internet.

I am the guy with the pro-gun wife, and who is confident enough in my ability to protect myself AND her with or without a gun.

You are the one with the anti-gun wife, suggesting the OP not care what she thinks.

Guns are a huge part of my life, a great hobby, sport etc. I cant imagine living with a anti-gun woman. I would make priority number 1, taking the Anti-gun women shooting, to an Appleseed etc, and show them how much FUN guns can be. It will make LIFE better in general, and the problem would dissapear.

Another poster suggested that marriage should be 50/50.

Thats part of the problem, marriage should be 100/100. Constantly trying to even out "you get this and I get that" or "you do this then I will do that "is a recipe for frustration and resentment. Both the husband and the wife should be 100% devoted to the other reaching 100% of his or her life goals. Not trying to complete a balancing act of priveledges and responsibilities and ending up with failed expectations and dissapointment. Because nobody can really hit that 50/50 dead on the bullseye.

/steps down off of soap box.
 
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This is why I'm so glad my Daddy taught me about guns as a young woman. He also told me to never marry a man that can't handle a gun, because if he couldn't handle that kind of responsibility he had no business being around me.

The hubby and I are both getting our CHL's and he loves it!

About one month in to dating the hubby we went duck hunting, I always waited for him to take the first shot and I also told him every duck was his. Daddy also told me not to steal a man's thunder.

Yes, I'm grown and I still call him Daddy!

**My advice to the OP is either conceal the darned thing or wait for her to warm up to the idea, because the world ain't getting any nicer. It might also help to know crime statistics for the areas she usually travels, she may be living with blinders on!
 
I'll be honest, my wife was hesitant at first about me carrying. She didn't understand the need for it and gave me looks every time I strapped a pistol under my clothing. However, after some time of carrying she doesn't even seem to notice. She and I have discussed the reasons for carrying on multiple occasions and have discussed various situations where a CHL would have been helpful. This being the case, she's not only used to the idea of me carrying but is thinking of getting her own license.

I think that couples have to do massive amounts of compromising in order to maintain a healthy relationship. However, I'm glad that this is an area that I did not back down on as it's something I take very seriously. We never got volatile about it but there were words crossed...we agreed to disagree and over time she's come to see my point of view. Now, she says she feels safer due to my 100% carry rule.
 
Posted by the OP:
My wife is fine with having .... one (firearm) for each vehicle...
Posted by LemmyCaution:
...a dedicated firearm that you leave in each of your vehicles? I hope not...
That's probably the case. Some people do this. Some people don't. Some see the benefits. Some won't.
 
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