meanmrmustard
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Trust me, I know. I've owned two: Which is easily done at $750 after taxes at my Cabelas per rifle. $1000 into one of them, the other left stock. Either deadly.
Chinks in my chain, man.
Windham Weaponry: Owners Opinions
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Chinks in my chain, man.
Devonai
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I used to own a Bushmaster (made in Maine) that worked fine, so when I saw Windham Weaponry in the store I pulled out my smart phone and looked them up online. The rifle already had all the features I wanted except for an optic, so I ponied up $900 and bought it.
In Connecticut, I had to compromise for an A2 lookalike muzzle device and a fixed stock, but I'm not trying to shoot with several inches of body armor on my shoulder so a fixed stock is fine for me. The rifle has been running fine so far, only about 300 rounds downrange; however, I was absolutely unimpressed with the backup iron sights that came with it and quickly switched to a Burris AR-332 3x optic.
In Connecticut, I had to compromise for an A2 lookalike muzzle device and a fixed stock, but I'm not trying to shoot with several inches of body armor on my shoulder so a fixed stock is fine for me. The rifle has been running fine so far, only about 300 rounds downrange; however, I was absolutely unimpressed with the backup iron sights that came with it and quickly switched to a Burris AR-332 3x optic.
KansasSasquatch
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It's sounding like the only bad part of the WW is the iron sights?
meanmrmustard
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And the lettering thus far. I'm sold on MBUS.
meanmrmustard
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Are there any Sig owners in the house?
Quentin
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And commercial diameter receiver extension and short front sight which would affect the MBUS rear. If other things, I've forgotten.
meanmrmustard
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Commercial buffer doesn't bother me. It's a non issue.
The sight however, does. Thanks for that info.
I'm not getting the Windham, based soley on sight height and price. The Sig is, from my reading purely, a better buy.
I wish I could change the title of this thread. The Windham rifle seemed nice, but I don't buy based on looks. I go on value per dollar. I'm now changing the game:
Sig M400 enhanced or another Sport. Decisions, decisions.
meanmrmustard
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I did at Wally World. The ambi doesn't bother me. It feels, oddly, kinda weighty.
It's over a pound heavier than the Sport. To me, that's important.
iunderstand your concern with weight. ocassionaly i find myself contemplating going back to a standard carbine. light and simple. however, the rail on my gun is worth the extra weight for what it provides in light mounting capablilties and ergos. it does change how it handles though.
meanmrmustard
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I won't be adding lights or lasers. When I had my first Sport, it wore Magpul furniture, moe vertical grip, riser, optic, loaded mag of 30 62 gr...7.5 pounds total.
That's what the Sig weighs empty. I need to research it more, it's features mostly.
marine 97-03
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The sporty is the answer ....
meanmrmustard
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I'm forgetting, however, that the SRC has a railed gas block. That would remedy any issues with irons. MBUS front and rear would be grand.
My best bud got his first Sport last night. He's in love, obviously, when he celebrated by blowing through 300 rounds of Tula. Filthy, hot and never skipped a beat right outta the box. All he did was hit it with CLP before firing. Show off.
Infidel4life11
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Hey brother, I can't believe you sold the sport.
You know where I stand on ARs.
My father in law has a Windham bushy which is one of the better AR's I've shot, before I realized that we had not had a single FTF, FTE, or jam we had shot over 25mags through it in less than 1 hour. Coatings were nice and my father in law dropped the windham bushy in the gravel driveway after I dusted it off there wasn't a scratch on it, you couldn't tell. WW takes AR's very personal, with pride, standards, the lack of quality in the market is why they came back into the market.
I was wanting a Sig for a while and its still on the table, I got to barrow one for a few weeks and I enjoyed it a lot and it's currently the picture on my desktop. Fit and finish is awesome I group sub MOA or MOA with both rilfes.
Now my 2cents I don't know if you remember me talking about the PSA/spikes lower I built for a friend but it's becoming my favorite ARs.
My BCM I sold is still the only gun I've ever missed, it's so bad I have dreams about it. If I could only have one gun the rest of my life it would be a BCM. I've taken their bolts on deployments with me, I've seen their rifles down range, in action, and it's the stuff of legends.
I'm a Cold Hammer Forged, Mid Length gas system guy so that's my bread and butter and now days if a new rifle doesn't have those 2 things it's not for me. Have you given CMMG a really good look they are local to you and me, I'm averaging 600rds a week with mine and the only thing I can complain about is the teflon coating on the bolt isn't the US Army issue mil-spec stuff I love so much. But it hasn't let me down yet and is my #1 gun.
You know where I stand on ARs.
My father in law has a Windham bushy which is one of the better AR's I've shot, before I realized that we had not had a single FTF, FTE, or jam we had shot over 25mags through it in less than 1 hour. Coatings were nice and my father in law dropped the windham bushy in the gravel driveway after I dusted it off there wasn't a scratch on it, you couldn't tell. WW takes AR's very personal, with pride, standards, the lack of quality in the market is why they came back into the market.
I was wanting a Sig for a while and its still on the table, I got to barrow one for a few weeks and I enjoyed it a lot and it's currently the picture on my desktop. Fit and finish is awesome I group sub MOA or MOA with both rilfes.
Now my 2cents I don't know if you remember me talking about the PSA/spikes lower I built for a friend but it's becoming my favorite ARs.
My BCM I sold is still the only gun I've ever missed, it's so bad I have dreams about it. If I could only have one gun the rest of my life it would be a BCM. I've taken their bolts on deployments with me, I've seen their rifles down range, in action, and it's the stuff of legends.
I'm a Cold Hammer Forged, Mid Length gas system guy so that's my bread and butter and now days if a new rifle doesn't have those 2 things it's not for me. Have you given CMMG a really good look they are local to you and me, I'm averaging 600rds a week with mine and the only thing I can complain about is the teflon coating on the bolt isn't the US Army issue mil-spec stuff I love so much. But it hasn't let me down yet and is my #1 gun.
meanmrmustard
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I have some time with CMMG, and indeed they're nice. I didn't think of them. I'm ashamed.
PSA is an option, but they're constantly back ordered.
Infidel4life11
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PSA, has the uppers I want. I get that it's not a whole rifle and quality lowers are getting just as hard to come by. But that has been a lot of fun to build and shoot my friend thinks I'm some kind gun building guru. I think you would really like them, when they get some BCG's in I'm going to by 5. I'm currently dropping hints to the wife for a christmas present for psa.
meanmrmustard
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If I go that route, the barreled mid length 16" CL with m16 BCG, BCM gunfighter large latch, and I'd prefer a S&W complete lower, well, or something 7075 T6.
Edit to add: Holy crap! Have you seen the 16" PA-15CR moe? I want THAT!!!!!!!
Infidel4life11
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I agree 100% that would be a nice weapon and they do crazy deals on some holidays. I'm trying my hardest to get their ML CHF CL 14.7 upper. And yes I'm drinking PSA kool-aid.
Quentin
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I just saw that deal tonight... Wow! I wouldn't look any further... $800... Really blows away the WW and Sig.
marine 97-03
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Finally a complete rifle ready to go for one low price. Our PA-15CR Carbine starts with one of our Premium chrome-lined Mil-spec steel barrels in the versatile M4 profile, mated to our forged aluminum upper, and finished off with a Midwest Industries SS12G2 12" lightweight free float rail, low profile gas block and A2 Flash hider. The forged lower is built with our 6 position Mil spec size buffer tube and stock, Standard PSA lower parts kit with MOE grip and trigger guard. The rifle is topped off with Magpul front and rear back up sights. It comes with one 30 Round Magpul Pmag Magazine (where allowed by law) so all you have to provide is the ammo to start having fun 16" barrel length 5.56 Nato Chamber 1 in 7" twist Chrome Moly Vanadium barre Chrome lined barre Forged upper and lowe Magpul front and rear BUS 12" Midwest Industries SSG2 Free Float Rai Magpul MOE grip, trigger guard and stock
meanmrmustard
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^thats the one.
To my door, assuming this price stays intact until I can buy it, would be $835. That's after shipping and transfer. Damn, I don't like ordering online, but I may break that cycle over this rifle.
I very rarely say this, but I have to have THAT.
To my door, assuming this price stays intact until I can buy it, would be $835. That's after shipping and transfer. Damn, I don't like ordering online, but I may break that cycle over this rifle.
I very rarely say this, but I have to have THAT.
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Infidel4life11
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WOW I just took a look at that thing. I think I'm in love.
meanmrmustard
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You and me both. Purchase is happening around the beginning of Dec. I'm obsessed.
Like the specs, the layout, the furniture is familiar, and I can get it to the nearest ffl for less than the Windham. Sold.
Mods can close this, or we can change discussion to PSA or similar rifles if anyone wants. I got what i needed!!!
Edit: offer expires the 8th. Damn! Oh well, $1000 in December isn't going to stop me, and I was going to spend that anyway. This is probably going to be the best AR I've ever owned. Now, the wait.
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