Wisconsin Concealed Carry Passes Committee

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I am not from WI, but go there frequently. It would make me very happy to be able to carry when I go to Milwaukee!

Honestly though, does this have any real chance? I am not real sharp on current WI politics.

I sure hope this gets done.
 
Congratulations Wisconsin.

The video is mistaken about a thousand yard restriction around schools. The restriction is against carrying on school grounds.

The bill recognizes all out-of-state licenses. Good.
 
While I'm an Illinoisan, I'm glad to see this moving along. I'm pretty certain that it will pass in some form, leaving Illinois as the only state without some provision for concealed carry. The Illinois legislature was not too far from passing a CCW bill with a veto-proof majority a few weeks ago, and I would guess that this might push a few more votes in the right direction.
 
Honestly though, does this have any real chance? I am not real sharp on current WI politics.

The real question is if they'll get constitutional carry through or have to resort to a permit system. SB93 was constitutional carry before this last committee got ahold of it, now it requires a training and a permit. This thread actually is bad new, not good.
 
I have a feeling that this is simply how the republicans expected this to go. Propose Constitutional Carry knowing that it would create a major uproar, then "settle" for training and permits.

Ultimately, it's much better than what we have right now which, of course, is nothing.
 
Leatherman-Cowboy wrote: "That is great new's for people in that State.Now we need to have California follow the same path."

The PRC will only change through court action and that ball is rolling. The CalGuns Foundation is doing great work in that regard.
 
I have a feeling that this is simply how the republicans expected this to go. Propose Constitutional Carry knowing that it would create a major uproar, then "settle" for training and permits.

Oh, definitely. It's a tactic that the anti's used for years: ask for something really big, get something smaller, make your opponents feel like they won, and walk away with something you didn't have before.
 
I have a feeling that this is simply how the republicans expected this to go. Propose Constitutional Carry knowing that it would create a major uproar, then "settle" for training and permits.

Ultimately, it's much better than what we have right now which, of course, is nothing.
Maybe, but constitutional carry had a real shot. Giving it up just to make things easier is nothing short of cowardice.
 
Maybe, but constitutional carry had a real shot. Giving it up just to make things easier is nothing short of cowardice.

I've seen the term used quite a bit, but it seems to me that the term, "constitutional carry" is a malapropism. Maybe someone can explain it in a way that a simple guy like me can understand, but if a right is constitutionally guaranteed, what is the point of a statute--a subordinate law--declaring that the right is guaranteed?

Someone needs to come up with a better term to describe the concept.
 
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So if this passes, it will go to the House and Senate and if it passes there the Governor signs it and it becomes law this year?

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I've seen the term used quite a bit, but it seems to me that the term, "constitutional carry" is a malapropism. Maybe someone can explain it in a way that a simple guy like me can understand, but if a right is constitutionally guaranteed, what is the point of a statute--a subordinate law--declaring that the right is guaranteed?

It's not a malapropism, although the term "constitutional carry" can be confusing.

Strictly speaking, "constitutional carry" refers to the U.S. Second Amendment. When a state adopts constitutional carry, it declares we, the people, can keep and bear arms in accordance with the Second Amendment.

Should that be necessary? No, of course not; most unfortunately, however, the Second Amendment isn't the law of the land in practice. Any time a state deliberately affirms the Second Amendment, it takes a step forward.

Most, but not all states have bills of rights embedded in their constitutions. California, for example, had language to guarantee the right of the people to keep and bear arms, but removed it during the (I believe) 1970s. The language varies considerably from state to state. Wisconsin has a provision in its constitution to guarantee the right to keep and bear arms, but has passed numerous laws to infringe it. Some of those laws have been declared illegal by courts in that state; most unfortunately, some of those that have been declared illegal are still being enforced by some police departments.

The simple—and logical and sane—solution would be for the Wisconsin legislature to declare full support for the U.S. Second Amendment. Very few politicians have the moral courage to do so. We'll see what happens.
 
The simple—and logical and sane—solution would be for the Wisconsin legislature to declare full support for the U.S. Second Amendment.
Except that in the ruling on District of Columbia v. Heller, SCOTUS stated that some restrictions on concealed carry are permissible under the Second Amendment.
 
Wow, Senator Risser is a real idiot. He offered up an ammendment to ban concealed carry in school zones, then admitted he didn't know what a school zone was. He then went on to argue against carry on a school playground.
 
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