Wolf .223 and my AR - a thought and a question.

[dfaugh]

So MY question is.....

Why would I own a gun that wouldn't reliably feed almost anything I could feed it, other than "reasonable" wear and tear(You never know what you might have to shoot through it)....Maybe that's why I don't own an AR (and probably never will). My SKSs will feed ANYTHING and are actually pretty accurate (although I won't claim the same for alot of AKs). And for the cost of and AR I can buy 4 or 5 of 'em!

(flame suit, and Kevlar vest installed )

 

[jefnvk]

dfaugh, my experience has been that most guns have something they don't like. My SKS just doesn't like soft points, for some reason.

It is not my promise. I can show you in writing that if you fire it you will void your warranty. If it voids the warranty then there is something wrong.

In your own post:

The following items are specifically excluded from coverage under warranty:

Damage resulting from the use of ANY imported, handloaded, factory re-manufactured, or non-brass cased ammunition.

Looks to me that they are pretty much trying to absolv themselves of fixing things. By your logic, you shouldn't use imported ammo (S&B), handloaded (your own), or factory re-man ammo (some Black Hills stuff) because they WILL damage the gun, either. So stop handloading and go buy CMP Federal stuff for $100/500.

 

[jobu07]

I would say I have seen more than my fair share not to mention I participated with my M2 .50 cal, AT4 anti tank missles, and yes the trusty M16. Everything I fired on auto or semi was brass.

TC, sorry, I didn't mean to imply that you had never fired a machine gun or that the military doesn't use high quality brass cased ammo. All I was saying is that these guys who show up to class III shoots with there $15,000+ machine guns don't hesitate to put an entire case of Wolf through it one afternoon. If they spend that much on a rifle, and see no ill effects from Wolf from the quantities that they put downrange, I don't see why Wolf isn't good enough for any of our humble semi-automatic AR-15's.

 

[Duke of Lawnchair]

Damage resulting from the use of ANY imported, handloaded, factory re-manufactured, or non-brass cased ammunition.

I thought I was the only one that caught that. Good catch, jefnvk.

 

[Samuel_Hoggson]

Class III

Cost is the criterion. Years ago, Norinco was the deal. This was of variable quality and, supposedly, not all of it non-cor. But everyone I know was using it. Why? B/C it was 10 cents/pop. Barrels were mostly chromed.......and if they rusted.........who gave a crap. Get another one. None of the belt-fed boys ever cared about corrosive vs. non-corrosive ammo. Why should the 5.56 crowd feel otherwise?

Then along came lacquered Wolf. Some would say that the lacquer, or maybe the steel.......or maybe the primer sealant, deterred the NFA crowd. Pure BS. SA M193 battlepacks were then readily available for about the same price. So that's what got burned. If there had been no SA the lacquered Wolf would have been the deal........so what if we have to Kroil or WD the chambers every coupla hours.

Parenthetically, it happens that I did burn a fair amount of lacquered Wolf in 16s. Guess I'm just lucky b/c I never stuck a case or killed an extractor. Except for shorties almost all malfs I've had were mag related. Shorties were an educational journey ending with D-rings and heavier buffers.......sorry to stray OT.

The SA and Malaysian have dried up. When you can find SA folks want ridiculous money for it. So Wolf Polymer is king. Noone I know is thumbing their nose at Wolf and burning Q3131A at 20 cents/pop in their 16s, HKs, whatever. It's as simple as that.

Yes, if I could buy 100k rounds of LC M193 for 10 cents/pop I'd buy it. But I'm not holding my breath.

In the last five years I have seen the use of reloads at MG shoots diminish. We all understand that we could save a coupla cents/pop using reloads. This "rethinking" correlates with a doubling in the price of RR16s that occurred over this time period.

Sam

 

[Gary G23]

A year ago I did the math and decided to give commie ammo a try. I have used lacquered steel cased Barnaul and Brown Bear ammo in my Bushmaster for the last year. With the money I saved I bought a new Bushmaster. A couple of weeks ago the extractor did break in the old Bushmaster but $15 and a few minutes later is was running again.