XDs .45 - failure to return to battery

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Has anyone else had this happen to their XDS .45?

It happened twice yesterday. Stopped just short of battery after the 1st shot. Both times, a swift tap on the bottom of the magazine made it go into battery.

Another time, still yesterday, the trigger did not reset after a shot. I racked the slide, ejected the live round, and the trigger reset.

I have put well over 500 rounds through this gun. FMJ and HP.

Have also had a few (3-5) light primer strikes.

This gun is rapidly proving itself not worthy of protecting my life. I hate that, because its a dream to shoot, and more accurate than any compact or subcompact that I own. But, I can't ignore the facts.

I'd really like to hear of anyone else's experiences with the XDs .45

Thanks in advance,
-Jeff
 
Mine has been perfect,approximately 300 rounds. I clean it after each firing and lube the rails. No trouble. Call Springfield you have a lifetime warranty.
 
Possibilites:

1) Be sure it's not out-of-spec ammo before you go sending the gun back to the manufacturer. This sort of malfunction is common with the cheap stuff and, sometimes, with handloads. The next time it happens, pull the round(s) in question, and compare them to other unfired rounds in the ammo box. You may find that the rounds were not quite right

2) The trigger not resetting COULD be shooter-induced, like when shooting rapidly and not letting the trigger go forward far enough. (Not saying it is, but a mechanical malfunction that causes a failure to reset should happen more than once.)

3) (This is unlikely with a new gun with only 500 rounds through it) could be a weakened recoil spring, that isn't storing enough force to close the slide. Out of spec ammo (as in 1) has the same effect, and when it happens more than once in a while, it's a strong suspect.

4) Perhaps you goofed (it's a common things) let your thumb drag a little on the slide as the gun cycles. This, if you can find nothing wrong with the ammo, is the likely culprit. It happens a lot more than most folks realized, if you shoot with the thumbs-high grip.

IF none of these seem a possibility, call the gunmaker, or read through the link above. (I didn't -- I don't have an XDs...)

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A recent member here mentioned a very tight extractor on their XD-S resulting in a failure to return to battery. A different (Tripp) magazine spring seemed to help this particular XD-S but it might be a bandaid and not a solution to the actual problem.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=720488

Since you've shot 500+ rounds through the pistol it's unlikely that the extractor is getting tighter but it's possible that the magazine spring is getting weaker. Maybe the XD-S operates well within a narrow window of opportunity ... and maybe not.

I've only shot 100 rounds or so through mine so it's very early days but I haven't had any issues yet.
 
500 rounds??

Have you tried cleaning and lubing it yet??

The failure to go into batter could be due to the locking recess in the top of the slide the barrel locks into + the slide rails being dry & dirty enough to stop it.

It shouldn't, but it could on a new gun while it is still wearing in mating surfaces with no lube.

rc
 
Be sure to remove the striker assembly and thoroughly clean the striker channel. It needs to be bone dry. Q-tips work best. This fixed the majority of my FTRB and light primer strikes (caused by FTRB), an issue which almost made me sell my XD-S .45 before I found the cause. It has been covered extensively on the XDtalk forum
 
I'm taking it back to the shop tomorrow to see what they have to say. It's only 6 months old. Maybe it'll go back go Springfield?

Also, I'm aware of the firing pinn area issues with XD, XDm, etc and have been very careful to keep that area dry.

Stay tuned.

-Jeff
 
Update:

I took it back to the shop Tuesday. He inspected and said all looked normal. I mentioned that I had been careful to keep the firing pin area dry, so he took that out and inspected. It had a little "gunk" in there which he dried off.

Reassembled the oiled the slide a bit. We agreed that I'd give it another try at the range before sending back to Springfield.

So, yesterday, back to the range I went. 120 rounds of 5 different brands of FMJ (including 50 of the same Federal that I was shooting when the first 2 FTRB occured. Flawless and accurate. This gun shoots better at 25 yards than my Kimber Target II that cost twice as much!

Now, the bad part. After that 120 rounds, I popped in a mag of my carry ammo: Federal Hydra-Shok. I had 3 FTRB in that 7 round mag and 1 in the next 5 round mag! So I switched to some TulAmmo FMJ and had a light primer strike. 150 rounds total yesterday.

If I wanted a range/target gun, then that's one thing. But this is/was my EDC. I don't need another range toy.

Frustrated!
 
Sounds like you need to take it to a gunsmith for some polishing of the chamber or ramp, or you need to find a different Self Defense round. Not all guns shoot all self-defense rounds equally well.

The light primer strike on the Tula ammo may have been the ammo (i.e., a hard primer, or one not quite to spec.)
 
So far it's just gone back to the gun store.

I just talked to Springfield a few minutes ago. I've got a label now and its going back to them on Monday.
 
Tight throat- May not work with all ammo. Ammo that measures larger than .451" on the bullet right in front of the brass case can be a problem. Reloaders using lead bullets with a diameter of .452" have problems, unless they load to a shorter COL.
 
I have about 800 rounds through my XDs. I have had two experiences when it did not return to battery, each time I had put 100+ rounds through the gun. IMHO the XDs, or at least mine, is VERY sensitive to dirt and dirty ammo. After 100 rounds of Federal American Eagle it's dirty. There are a lot of claims that the small size of the gun required some pretty tight tolerances. If that is true dirty ammo can be a problem.
 
Thanks Steve. Dirty gun could have been the cause 2 days ago, since the FTRB occured after 120 rounds.

But, 6 days ago, it occured within the 1st 50 rounds. The gun was clean before I started shooting that day.

I wish it was just a case of it being picky about being very clean. I could live with that.
 
My XD-45 ran 4k rounds with NO malfunctions, I applied an expensive grease to the slide and rails to minimize wear, and immediately got very light primer strikes and failure to fires. The slide was not going to battery. A thorough cleaning, and an application of light oil, and have 1200 rounds with no malfunctions.
 
Very interesting, tactikel, thanks for the info.

When I got my XDs45 1½ weeks ago I elected to use a dry MDS lubricant on the wear/lubrication points (Eezox for the rest). Your experience suggests that, in addition to a light oil, that might be just the thing, especially for Carry since it will not attract/hold "dirt" ... which was my primary reason for choosing it.

If my theory fails, I will be sure to post about it.
 
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