Yet Another Danger of Trigger Locks
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VARifleman
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My dad put a trigger lock on his marlin 39a after my mother pitched a fit about having guns in the house when my brother and I were young. He put this on after he took the bolt out of the rifle and put it in the safe deposit box. Why she felt both were necessary, I'll never understand. We put it back together and found the trigger lock, of course, released the hammer when the lever was closed. Surprise surprise, it made the gun more dangerous.
Wesson Smith
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Hmmm. Never had a problem with trigger locks, myself. They seem pretty straightforward to me. I just use them as a secondary safety device when transporting my weapons, but they seem to do the job in a pinch.
wizard of oz
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although obvious, perhaps it needs restating that the post of the trigger lock goes behind the trigger
hueytaxi
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Trigger locks simply negate the term weapon. Will never own one. We have guests with children, the guns are locked away. I own guns for collection, for nostalgia and defense. The defense guns are always available, loaded and safe. Of course, they are also lethal to the misguided curious. I'll take the risk rather than have to find the key to my gun lock or unlock the safe in the middle of the night.
Wesson Smith
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The rubberized Master Lock trigger lock will not budge, if secured correctly. Weapon loaded, or otherwise.
Hemicuda
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If I were to USE a gun-lock of ANY kind, I would much prefer the CABLE locks, as I can put them around the HANDLES of the GUNCASE, and then proceed to open the case and remove the weapon WITHOUT removing the lock...
that said, I have a glass front display case in my living room, with ALL the gun locks I have recieved with my guns tacked up to the back panel, all still in their original wrapper...
I have NO INTENTION of EVER locking up the mechanism on ANY of my guns... that would just turn them into ergonomically challenged clubs!
instead of locking the guns away from the kids in my house, I do like Dad did... I EDUCATE the kids about them... I was around guns literally from BIRTH, and have yet to injure or kill somrthing I didn't MEANT to shoot...
that said, I have a glass front display case in my living room, with ALL the gun locks I have recieved with my guns tacked up to the back panel, all still in their original wrapper...
I have NO INTENTION of EVER locking up the mechanism on ANY of my guns... that would just turn them into ergonomically challenged clubs!
instead of locking the guns away from the kids in my house, I do like Dad did... I EDUCATE the kids about them... I was around guns literally from BIRTH, and have yet to injure or kill somrthing I didn't MEANT to shoot...
SnWnMe
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You have to go to police HQ with your gun?
Sharps-shooter
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how would a trigger lock work on something like a ruger #1? there wouldn't be anything to hold the post in place behind the trigger? I've only ever seen one kind of trigger lock, perhaps there are others.
Mainsail
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He was trying to pry it off? You can easily pick those with two paperclips.
I am show up at Sheriff dept all the time with guns. In MI there is a purchase permit to buy a handgun(CCW holders Are exempt). After the purchase you take the gun down to apporiate law enforcement office (in my county sheriff office) for a saftey insecpetion
. This so called insepection is just really a gun registration.
Brion
. This so called insepection is just really a gun registration.Brion
WeedWhacker
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I have *personally* popped off a locked rubber-shrouded Master-branded trigger lock off a Hi-Power using a single Craftsman blade screwdriver. Not recommended, as I'd knocked a small spot of the finish off of the trigger guard. (That pistol was unloaded, FWIW.)
Sleeping Dog
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I've had to take guns to the police HQ for the MI "safety check" (we don't call it registration). For that trip, they wear trigger locks. But THEY ARE NOT LOADED when I take them into the station. And I don't think the cops would want anyone prying on the lock. They'd probably tell me to come back when I have the key.
Ryder
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They've never have asked me to see a trigger lock when I got one registered. I can guarantee you there was not one attached to any gun I ever took in there. Can't help but tease the poor merchants when they make me sign that government paper saying I was provided with a lock.
Sounds to me like the guy didn't shoot himself because of the trigger lock as much as it happened just because he has no familiarity with firearms. Bet he regrets volunteering now.
Axman
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Impossible for those firearms with a solid trigger (no gap behind the trigger).
A Trigger lock,Most often will alow firearm to be loaded, First must be designed for a perticular gun. Ie. The "Master Trigger Lock was designed for a double action revolver. But if you were to read the instructions on the packageing it will tell you to , if unable to insert the bolt behind the trigger to place it in front and squeeze it real tight.
Trigger locks became a political issue, therefore logic whent out the window.
I pleaded with the Enforcment division of the Minnesota DNR(firearms safety training is under this department) to stop this missuse of the trigger lock, They wouldn't touch the issue "Too Political"
Operation Home safe, and Project Child Safe give out cable locks, as do some manufactures. This type of lock is much more universal.
There is another style called the envelope, this one is designed for certain style actions http://www.themilitarytrail.com/servlet/the-875/Life-Jacket-Hand-Gun/DetailIe. the slide action shotgun, etc. Very nice and some can be mounted to a pillar, or wall. There are tigger locks that have a motion alarm, Then there are the manny diferent integral locks, These can be easly defeated like any lock.
Gun Safe, that is the best of the best.
I would recomend the electronic key-pad. Although mine failled me and i am using a dial for now. The dail is a real pain but the security is worth sitting on many sharp tacks!!
Gbro
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Trigger locks became a political issue, therefore logic whent out the window.
I pleaded with the Enforcment division of the Minnesota DNR(firearms safety training is under this department) to stop this missuse of the trigger lock, They wouldn't touch the issue "Too Political"
Operation Home safe, and Project Child Safe give out cable locks, as do some manufactures. This type of lock is much more universal.
There is another style called the envelope, this one is designed for certain style actions http://www.themilitarytrail.com/servlet/the-875/Life-Jacket-Hand-Gun/DetailIe. the slide action shotgun, etc. Very nice and some can be mounted to a pillar, or wall. There are tigger locks that have a motion alarm, Then there are the manny diferent integral locks, These can be easly defeated like any lock.
Gun Safe, that is the best of the best.
I would recomend the electronic key-pad. Although mine failled me and i am using a dial for now. The dail is a real pain but the security is worth sitting on many sharp tacks!!
Gbro
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ChopperKen
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I have taken handguns in for inspection with a triggerlock on them,
The police got handed the gun with lock attatched.
All they need to do they can with a locked gun, Saftey check?
It's regestration not saftey,They don't need to have it unlocked to register the serial #.
Now I just take them in in my range bag without locks and ask for a free lock or two while I'm there(them cable locks work on bikes,sheds,propaine tanks....)
The police got handed the gun with lock attatched.
All they need to do they can with a locked gun, Saftey check?
It's regestration not saftey,They don't need to have it unlocked to register the serial #.
Now I just take them in in my range bag without locks and ask for a free lock or two while I'm there(them cable locks work on bikes,sheds,propaine tanks....)
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