Well I guess iron and clay just wont mix. No cohesion.
Edward, first of all, your direct attacks are unnecessary and makes an interesting point to your personal character, not mine.
So, you can call me a liquor store robber and thats ok, but if I call you naive or lacking in class, then I've got a sordid character? LMAO, thats funny.
You personally didn't want to go through the trouble of being a legal concealed weapon carrier. Its too intrusive or blah blah blah. The fact remains that you are going through efforts to hide your illegal carrying and it therefore does not fall under "civil disobedience" as you may have convinced yourself it has.
We've already established the fact that the gun laws are unconstitutional and we're not obliged to obey them as such. So I am not illegally carrying and I'm not trying to hide it since I'm on the web posting it for the world to see. Its not civil disobediance either if you think about it. Its simply the right thing to do in the face of others who would tell me no. Its prudent to hide ones weapon from the people, and to declare it to the po po for obvious reasons. You simply threw the truth out the window with total disregard, and stated present day legislation to be truth and proper, WITH NO PROOF OTHER THAN THE INTIMIDATION OF THE ADMINISTRATION. Jeezow, guy at least do your homework.. I at least provided a basis and reference beyond silly emotionalism.
And once again, you have failed to read the posts you are responding to. Go back and read, I mean like a big boy where you read all the words, and you will see I do not contradict myself but rather people assume I have said things I have not
Perhaps you should be more clear then. So what do you stand on, fundamental (common) law, or legislative law?
"If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, ye do well." James 2:8
"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that me should do to you, do ye also to them." Matthew 7:12
"Master what is the greatest commandment in the law? Jesus said to him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. And the second is like unto it, thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. On these two commandments hang ALL THE LAW." Matthew 22:36-40
Too spiritual for you? How bout:
"The United States adopted the common laws of england with the Constitution."
Caldwell vs Hill 176 S.E. 383 1934
"Law of the land means the Common Law"
Taylor vs Porter 4 Hill. 140, 146, State vs Simpson 2 Spears, 761, 767
"The Common Law of England, so far as it is not repugnant to or inconsistant with the Constitution of the United States, or the Constitution or the laws of this State, is the rule of decision in all the courts of this State." Section 22.2 Calafornia Government Code
The Common law originated as the unwritten law of England. It is rooted in the Magna Carta signed by King John in 1215. It limited the power of the King and guarenteed liberties of the people. It is derived from principles rather than rules; it does not consist of absolute, inflexible statutes, but rather of broad and comprehensive
principles based on
morality, justice, reason, conscience, truth, and
common sense. This jurisprudence system is based on judicial precedent rather than the mass volumes of Codes, and absolutist legislative statutes which bind the citizens, subject to exclusive U.S. jurisdiction to every word and comma. The Common law has only two solid principles upon which all law is based:
1) Do not encroach upon the rights or property of others.
2) Keep all contracts and agreements that you enter into knowingly, voluntarily, and intentionally.
Under the Common Law, if there's no victim, there's no crime. There must be an injured party. Under the common law an American citizen is free to conduct his affairs according to his own conscience as long as he keeps his voluntary intentional agreements and does not encroach upon the rights of others.
Although there are written court precedents memorializing Common Law principles (i.e. "a State cannot impose a charge on the excercise of a right"), the Common Law is considered an
unwritten law. The Common Law is the "will of the people." The Civil law is the "will of the Government." Civil laws are established for the purpose of "regulating" the People, imposing fees and establishing penalties for noncompliance. Morality and justice are not mandatory in civil law.
At the Nuremberg trials, Nazi defendants claimed innocence on the grounds that they were under orders and obeying Germany's laws. The prosecution argued that,
"there is a higher law than any government can impose on us." The judges agreed, stating that "
The fact that the defendant acted pursuant to an order of his government or of a superior shall not free him from responsibility." In that significant decision, the Court aknowledged that a higher law existed, above that of Government. The Nazi defendants had broken the laws which the Decleration of Independance defines as the "Laws of Nature and of Natures God" that is, "Laws of Morality and Reason" and therefore, the Nazi's were executed.
So I'm unable to comprehend that I am a lawbreaker by carrying a concealed weapon. Would you have had me to blow a neat whistle or scream for help when the dog attacked me, rather than "discharge a weapon within city limits"?
You're arguments are pretty weak dude. In fact, you have none beyond sensational emotionalism. Come back when you have a case to state intelligently.
(Sorry Runt, didn't realize that naive was a four letter word. Should truth be supressed for fear of 'hurting someones feelings'? I thought I did pretty good by him considering his attack on me by calling me a robber. I tried I tell ya, and the most amicability I could muster in the face of such idiocy.)
(That wasn't an attack either, it was me speaking to Runt.)