Yugo SKS or Mosin Nagant for a first long gun?

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The title says it all.
I am looking to buy my first long gun and I have narrowed it down to the sks and mosin.
Why? they are in my price range and from what I have reasearched are prety reliable. And have been around for while especially the mosin so that is a plus for me at least.
Whichever I pick will be used only for range practice. I do not hunt yet.
I own a few pistols and revolvers, go to the range at least twice a month.
All opininons are welcome.
Thanks to all in advance.
 
The shooting experiences are very different. The SKS offers cheaper ammunition but also eats it a lot faster. The Mosin will have greater potential accuracy, but a great deal depends on what specific type you get. If you're looking to do a lot of off-hand or kneeling practice at 50 yards, either one will be excellent. If you're shooting mostly off a bench and prone, the Mosin would be the better choice.
 
Get the Yugo

better workmanship, nicer bluing, and a more robust stock. The Zastava arsenal is known for turning out a nice product. The workmanship, thin stock, and smoothness of the action on the Mosin Nagant is very "Russian." Meaning that it is meant to be functional, not elegant. If you do go for the Nagant get a M-39 Finn.
 
My opinion only, but I would choose a different bolt gun for a first rifle. The average mosin is not all that accurate in my experience. It is cheap so I guess that is an advantage. I would suggest a Swiss K31, Enfield, or a Mauser style mil-surp for a more accurate gun that you might have more fun with down the road. I have K31 and it is a pleasure to shoot with very precise open sights.

I would second you on the SKS being a good, inexpensive semi-auto. Be prepared to work on or upgrade the sights though. I recommend the Tech Sights.

If it were my choice and only those two, I would go with the SKS. More fun, more useful for home defense, and more likely to go up in value sooner.
 
I have a Mosin M-44 and I must say it's the loudest freakin' gun I own! That short barrel in combination with hot Russian ammo makes for a real KABOOM! It's a great rifle for what it is. Never owned an SKS but I do own an FN FAL chambered in .308. I like the Mosin better for plinking but the FAL better for protection due to capacity and firepower. Hope that helps you out. BTW, 7.62x39mm has been very scarse where I live currently. I saw a little at the last gun show but for the most part all the local stores are out. I'm not sure why but you may keep that in mind.
 
Okay, to answer the question you didn't ask: get some sort of .22 rifle as well. Absurdly cheap practice ammo, no recoil to develop bad habits, etc. If you don't have one, I'd recommend you get one. A used Marlin model 60 can be had for well under 100 bucks from a pawn shop.

Okay, now that I've said that.... I love my mosins, I don't have an SKS yet, but it's on the wish list. I've shot a few, and generally liked them. However, for $100 bucks, you can get a rifle that can (if you get a good one) shoot about 1 inch groups at 100 yards, with ammo that costs under 10 cents per round. So, I'd say mosin.

But, if you're going to be shooting under 50 yards, especially just plinking on your/your parents'/your buddy's farm, then go with the SKS.

You said you don't hunt yet, but are you considering it? If so, go for the mosin.

But at least consider getting a .22 as well.
 
Now that Nate mentions it, I do think a .22 rifle like a Marlin 39A would be a better first long gun. I guess it depends on how much long gun experience you already have.
 
Personally, I'd go with the mosin. SKS ammo (7.62x39) is going up and price, and seems hard to find lately. Mosin-nagant ammo (7.62x54R) is still dirt cheap.
Plus, there is just something fun about a good bolt action rifle.
 
Between those two choices, I'd pick the SKS. I have both a Yugo SKS and a Mosin-Nagant 91/30, and the SKS is a LOT more fun to shoot. The ammo is more readily available and is cheaper than equivilant, non-corrosive 7.62x54R. Also, the SKS is a lot more forgiving on the shoulder than the Nagant, which would lead to more shooting and less potential pain.
 
Yeah, get a .22 first (Marlin 60) and practice with that....

But, as far as your direct question, I have a Mosin M44 (Polish), a 91/30 and 2 SKSs....Haven't shot the Mosins in a LONG time, but I shoot the SKSs often..Cheap ammo and moderate recoil are among the many reasons. If I was looking at milsurp bolt guns I'd also go for a Mauser or maybe an SMLE(I own both of them as well), before a Mosin. I really don't like the safety on the Mosins, but you can find some pretty nice ones cheap. My M-44 was a re-arsenal---like new and I got it for 79.99---kicks like all get out though, not very accurate with milsurp ammo, but pretty good w/ factory stuff.
 
I have both an M-44 Mosin-Nagant and a Yugo 59/66 SKS. Depends on what you want...

For 'fun gun' shooting, the SKS. If I need to send some obnoxious other shooters packing...the M-44 with heavy ball ammo. I actually made a guy shooting a .300Win Mag leave the range one day...He was moaning about MY gun being too loud :evil: :evil: :evil:

With some of the now availabe soft-point ammo, the Mosin-Nagant would be good for medium-game hunting.
 
I own both a Yugo and an M44 Nagant. The SKS is much more fun to shoot. Both are good guns and can be shot with cheap ammo. I personally would pick up the SKS first.
 
Buy both! I love my M38 and 44 , but about 20 rounds at a shooting is about my limit. Afraid of irritating the neighbors and putting my shoulder out of joint.

The SKS is better for plinking.
 
wolf 7.62 ammo is going to iraq, so I wouldn't get an sks with the intention of cheap practice. I did, and immediatly afterwards the ammo shortage began.
 
Get both. Honestly, I got an M59 and a month later got a M44. If only I could find a SVT....
 
All fun being equal, you can clean the Mosin in a lot less time... and don't get the Finn M39; I'm trying to buy all of them...
 
Tough choice...if at all possible, I'd get both.

The ammo is more readily available and is cheaper than equivilant, non-corrosive 7.62x54R.

Right now, 7.62x39 is extremely hard to come by for a decent price. Six months ago I would've agreed, but not at the moment. You can get 880 round cases of Polish 7.62x54R (corrosive but very easy to clean/maintain) for around $65 plus shipping (Both AIM or AMMUNITIONSTORE)...*IF* you can find the 7.62x39 you're looking at about $130-$150/1000 plus shipping right now (this will most likely come down a little when the big boat arrives *fingers crossed*).

I take both to the range and enjoy both of them a lot...but find myself shooting my M39's more often than the SKS. I do however enjoy my www.bloomautomatic.com golf ball launcher for the SKS :evil:

Cleaning the Mosin is easier than the SKS when you figure in the gas system and the little springs that pop out and smack you in the head (ok, so it only happened to me once...)

and don't get the Finn M39; I'm trying to buy all of them...

You and me both Ad Astra :D
 
Buy them both

The Yugo SKS are cool, although I am enjoying my Mosin more at the moment. Between not shooting up the newly precious 7.62 x 39, using the cheaper 54r ammo, and having a much bigger boom, I'm becoming a Mosin convert. That, and working the bolt is cool, slows you down, helps you concentrate more.

That, and you can load the thing in the freezing cold while still wearing your gloves! That didn't work as well with the SKS...
 
SKS- everyone should have a SKS.;)

As far as accuracy goes, at 100 yard, my exc condition Yugo will shoot better than any of the Russian mosins that I have. A new or almost new Yugo costs about the same as a Ruger 10/22, while a worn out mosin costs 1/2 as much. 5 years from now, yugos SKSs aren't going to be as common, but $70 mosin nagants will still be all over the place.

The only upside to the mosin that I can see is that the ammo is much easier to find these days for he mosin.
 
mosin, except that it is not semi auto, it is better at everything else. more accurate, longer range, cheaper, no extras to buy or lose, can take down jsut about anything in north america.
 
TheBigBulgarian said:
The title says it all.
I am looking to buy my first long gun and I have narrowed it down to the sks and mosin.
Why? they are in my price range and from what I have reasearched are prety reliable. And have been around for while especially the mosin so that is a plus for me at least.
Whichever I pick will be used only for range practice. I do not hunt yet.
I own a few pistols and revolvers, go to the range at least twice a month.
All opininons are welcome.
Thanks to all in advance.

Well, out of the two I would suggest the SKS over the Mosin. I have both. The Mosin has quite a little wholp to it - the SKS is far softer shooting. But for $200 or a little more you could have both.

but

The first long gun you should buy is anything chambered in .22!? FAR cheaper to shoot and .22s are just plain fun.
 
I'd have to go with the Mosin. I hate the triggers on the SKS...at least the 2 that I've had. Yeah, it's fun, but ooooh, that trigger just sucks.

The Mosin offers lost of options too. Super long version in the 91/30. Loud shoulder pounder in the M44. And super sweet Finnish version.

Corrosive ammo isn't a problem unless you can't swab out the barrel when you get home. And compared to some of the other bolt guns, ammo is still inexpensive.
 
First long gun you say? Since you aren't after a .22LR which is what I'd recommend for a first long gun, you should definitely go with the SKS. I have both, and the SKS is better for a first time rifle shooter.

I say this because of recoil, pure and simple. Nothing ruins a newbie worse than lots of recoil. It'll instill a flinch or bad habits that are hard to break. The Mosins recoil can be a bit much for a new rifle shooter. The SKS is much softer on the shoulder. Ammo is still cheaper and easier to find, even if it is going up in price. Go for the SKS. A new shooter needs to shoot a LOT to get practice and the basics down. This is much easier done with an SKS than a Mosin.

If you do get the Mosin, at least invest in a slip-on recoil pad.

And whatever you do, don't try to make the SKS into a sniper rifle with a receiver mount and scope. It won't work, and you'll be dissatisfied with the accuracy. Learn on the iron sights, and later, if you are still hooked on rifle shooting, get a quality bolt action with a scope if you want.
 
Ill add a few coals into the fire here :)

My first centerfire Long Gun was the Mosin m44. Everything that has already been mentioned about the noise, the recoil on the shoulder etc... is very true. :) Ton of fun though. When you see that big ol ball of flame out the front end and people walk over to ask what the hell is that :D its a good feeling. I assure you as you have probably read elsewhere, this is the start of an obsession as you wind up with more than just this one. You are warned, you will want more. Mosins are inexpensive and can multiply. They do. I also now have a 91/59 which is basically the 91/30 that has been cut down to carbine length. Its very similar to the m38 without the bayo which is the same as the m44 with the bayo. Personally the m44 with the bayo is a pain in the ass. You have to extend it to shoot it as the Russians sighted them in with it extended, it adds some weight to it. Just food for thought, I would say try and find a m38 or a 91/59, even going with an m44 would be good. Now these are the Carbines. Theres nothing wrong with finding an 91/30, or one of the Finn m39 as already mentioned. IMHO which ever one you choose, make sure the crown is pretty decent, the bore has some life left in it and with a little TLC you can fine tune a Mosin into a very decent firearm.

I also have a Chinese SKS, tons of fun, ammo just dissappears with it, you can get quite happy on the trigger. Yes, its sucks :banghead: :banghead: ammo has just vanished as of late, curses too because I have not had much chance to go shoot it lately. It also would be a fine choice for a first timer. I would honestly say stick to the stock configuration. When people start putting these stupid stocks and other add on crap, it just makes it look stupid. My opinion though, YMMV.

I do have or well I gave it away but can have access to it any time a nice Stevens/Savage Model 60 .22 that I got for 35 bucks in a pawnshop. My best find ever. Accurate. It just flat works. Not pretty, not fancy, just works. They are out there, pawnshops full of sleepers. You just have to be paitent and look for them. Pawnshops are also full of things to stay far away from, sometimes you just inherit someone elses headaches. It pays off to do your homework and know the gig ahead of time.

Finally, why not consider the Yugo m48 or if you can find one, a YC or RC k98. This is the German Model 98 Carbine Mauser of WWII Im referring too. These use the 8mm Mauser round, unless they are just in complete neglected shape, very good shooters and can be had for not much either if you look around. I have a Yugo m48 and its a blast.

So there you have it, doesnt help much does it? Watch the old surplus ammo. If you do go with the SKS and you wind up buying old surplus ammo that is corrosive, you can really get into trouble with the clean up if you dont clean out the gas tube and everything correctly. I honestly dont trust when they say non corrosive especially on the modern day Russian made stuff. I still assume it is and clean it as such. The bolt guns will be a lot easier to deal with if you do shoot corrosive stuff. Do your homework and start searching for corrosive cleanup info on the web. Trust us on this, you dont want your first long gun to be a dissapointment if it gets messed up. The only good thing about a .22 as yes they are dirty, but you wont have to worry about corrosive clean up. Just food for thought.

I assure you that you will not go wrong with whatever you decide. They are all fine choices. You will probably wind up owning one of each flavor anyways if your like me and everyone else around here. Good luck.
 
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