277 Wolverine

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Hey all, MDWS here. Did a search on the 277 Wolverine here and I see it being mentioned, brought up, discussed in numerous threads.

So, thought I would start a new one here. If you have any questions, we're happy to help answer any of them.

Thanks!
 
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I have a pretty simple one, but will a .277W case fit into a .223 chamber? From the looks of it, it does not appear that it would.

I am curious from a safety perspective as occasionally you see where someone accidentally loaded a .300BO into a .223 chamber, was unfortunate enough to get extreme bullet setback, and then pulled the trigger nuking the gun.
 
Not without a mallet!

You have to drop the bolt about 5 times in an AR after having to mortar the now mangled cartridge back out each time before the bolt will close. The cartridge is so mangled at that point it is hard to call it "chambered".
 
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No questions per se. One downside of my chosen AR platform (LMT) is that even though it's easy to change barrels it's not easy to get extensions to mount non-LMT barrels so I'm probably not jumping on the bandwagon any time soon. Looks like a fun bandwagon though.

If you made an LMT-compatible barrel, I'd probably buy one.
 
There are a couple LMT Wolverines out there already. The name of the outfit escapes me at the moment, but you send them your barrel and they convert it to work. Google may find it for you quicker than me, but if I can look later I'll post the link.
 
The 205 Grain bullets are for subs in the 1:7 twist barrels. We offer 1:7 twist barrels in 16" and under that run supers and subs.
 
I have a question for you, where are dies available for 277? Been trying to price out a build, and i haven't found dies...

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I am pretty interested in the 277, but it appears almost all of your barrels are out of stock. When do you plan on doing another run? Also, for general non suppressed shooting what length do you recommend?
Hey I figured out how to quote.

We have a lot of barrel options, and it's hard to keep all of them in stock all the time. We do have a notification list you can get on for when barrels come in. Right now we have a bunch, but of course Murphy's Law will dictate that we don't have the exact barrel you want at the moment.

We have them coming in constantly, and they sell out quickly. In just 2 years we have managed to get just under 1000 barrels in the field.

If you want on our list just email us at [email protected]
 
I considered the cartridge for my ultralight build and probably spoke to you a couple times.

In the end I decided on 300blk for availability reasons. But if you pull an RSilvers with 277 like he did 300bo and I'm there.

IMO there's a lot of room for new cartridges based on a 5.56 case
 
I considered the cartridge for my ultralight build and probably spoke to you a couple times.

In the end I decided on 300blk for availability reasons. But if you pull an RSilvers with 277 like he did 300bo and I'm there.

IMO there's a lot of room for new cartridges based on a 5.56 case
I understand and that's ok. The pains of still being a Wildcat and not yet supported by some huge company.

Soon though!
 
Are you guys working on standardizing with SAAMI?
Well, yes, but it isn't up to us. We don't have a seat at the SAAMI table. We have talked to some large companies that do, and there has been interest in putting it through, but it will take one of them "sponsoring" it which hasn't happened yet. It's only a matter of time before they realize the sales opportunities they are missing out on and that will push it over the finish line.
 
I shoot a .270 win and really like the idea of component interchangeability. To that point, I already have a 6.8spc2 barrel sitting in the safe waiting to be built into an upper. When I do that though I have some expense coming in repro filing th heavy monstrosity that it currently is, then 6.8 bolt carrier group, mags, dies, ammo, etc. I understand the beauty of using common brass as parent cases as well.

So what would benefit me in simply building a 277 rather than moving forward with the 6.8, assuming I sell the 6.8 barrel. Is there enough justification to change my plans?
 
I shoot a .270 win and really like the idea of component interchangeability. To that point, I already have a 6.8spc2 barrel sitting in the safe waiting to be built into an upper. When I do that though I have some expense coming in repro filing th heavy monstrosity that it currently is, then 6.8 bolt carrier group, mags, dies, ammo, etc. I understand the beauty of using common brass as parent cases as well.

So what would benefit me in simply building a 277 rather than moving forward with the 6.8, assuming I sell the 6.8 barrel. Is there enough justification to change my plans?
The 6.8 will give you extended range. We surveyed 1,000 shooters that are hunters and asked what they consider their average range when they take deer and what is the max range they would as well (with an AR). Most said their average range was 150 yards and max was 300. That being said, folks are taking deer with the WLV out past 300 all day. So, if you figure the WLV covers your average and max ranges, and is just a simple "barrel swap" in an AR15 (meaning it takes ALL 5.56 components except the barrel), the WLV makes a lot of sense to a lot of folks.

The 6.8 will always be faster because it has more case capacity, that's just math. The WLV is right on its heals while using all standard AR15 5.56 "parts" and mags, etc. It also shoots subs almost as heavy as the BLK (200 grains or more). It is quite possibly the most versatile cartridge for the standard AR15 platform. Target, varmint, predator, deer and hogs, and if you like subsonic it does that, too.
 
I put together a 300 BLK upper because you could use all standard AR parts and just get a 300 BLK barrel, plus it uses 5.56 brass as the parent case, uses the same mags, and it used .308 bullets which I already used and are in ample supply with lots of choices. And pulled 147s used to be cheap.

Most of that goes for the .277 Wolverine as well. All standard parts with a .277 barrel and 5.56 parent case. It uses .277 bullets instead of .308, but there are still a fair amount of nice .227 bullet choices out there.

I find the .277 Wolverine quite interesting. (Oh yea, and I have 500 .277 115 Gr HPs sitting around as well.)
 
MDWS:

That's a really interesting site. Thank-you for the info. And welcome to The High Road!

Geno
 
I considered getting a barrel in the past, but I was turned off for two reasions. First the barrel I wanted was not in stock. Second, the only load date I fould find was on the fourm link on your site. I cannot allow myself to trust load data someone posted on a form. If you really want this ideaa to take off, we need barrels, trusted load data, and affordable bullets. People with AR rifles like to shoot them alot and I'm thinking Hornady bulk pack 110 grain FMJ, SP, or HP bullets. Maybe do a group buy on bullets here to get enough quality for a lower cost. This would also pool in 6.8 and 270 win shooters. I'm not trying to give you business advise, just saying what I would like to see, as I really want to give your offerings a try.
 
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it all depends on the ogive radius and nose shape of the bullet, not the length or weight
I agree. But that's an 85gr difference. They're probably stuffing quite a bit of extra bullet shank into the brass to get them to fit into an AR mag. You'd probably have to do the same with the SST's. But the casing is already about 0.20" shorter than .223/5.56 so that would probably give the SST more room out front.
 
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