$.04 per round 22LR now in Walmart BUT.....

JohnKSa said:

Any ammunition seller with an FFL (sells firearms) must verify age before selling ammo. It's a federal requirement.

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I think his point is asking DOB and asking for ID are two different things. Perhaps the Walmart cashier that asked for ID was too lazy to hand key DOB in. I'd make them hand key it instead of swiping an ID.

BullSlinger said:

I don't remember any requirement for logging into bound book for ammo purchasing back then. Maybe in your local area but not in NC, MO, or NM.

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CA, for awhile. Long time ago. I used to sign it Charlie Manson

I purchased some 22 ammo this week at Wal Mart and was asked for handgun or rifle?, I just replied "yes". When they asked me my birthdate I answered 1-1-1906 and yes, I am 111 years old. The kid behind the register doesn't give a rat's butt how old I am, he's just doing his job.

I remember having to log in ammo purchases. My dad was buying me some 38 special reloads the first time I saw it done. Went bye bye not long after.
I've never had anyone enter my DL number on anything but a 4473.

akarguy said:

Was delighted to see several Federal Champion 525 bulk packs back in Walmart for $20,97. Gladly decided to pickup a box. At checkout, the kid asked for my ID which he looked at then imputed into the register. Huh? I asked him what he entered (thinking it was the DOB). Nope, it was the drivers license number. I asked him why he needed that and he said it's now store policy. Seriously?? Mom and pops dont do this. is this a database of ammo buyers? What purpose could this possibly serve? I told him to keep it and will buy elsewhere. Anyone else care to shed some light on this??

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I do not give that company any of my money, so this does not affect me in the slightest. If you want to be treated that way, by all means keep going.

No big deal to me. If they want my DL number, they can have it. I have nothing to hide.

Cannibul said:

Before 1984 it was REQUIRED to show ID and have logged in a bound book

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Thoaght that was '86 with FOPA. And that the requierment came to us with GCA 68.
I remember buying ammo at Three C Sporting goods in Bryan, Texas and having to wait while they logged the ammo in the ammo bound book. FedMart, even Lassiter's Outfitters.

That is odd. I have bought plenty of ammo, not 22LR, at Wal-Mart. No ID check here that I recall.

Just bought a bucket of bullets the other day at Bass Pro. Cash, no questions asked.

A couple few years ago, Cabelas in Michigan only asked whether for rifle or pistol. Maybe the same for Gander Mountain here in Ohio.

One of the local Dicks sporting goods does that,it really annoys me and I try not to buy ammo there.

The last time I was in there they did the same to me. They told me it was to verify age and they dont keep a record of it. I call B.S. personally.

With Obamacare tying healthcare, the IRS, and all your banking info, into one neat package, the last thing I worry about is if anyone knows if I buy a box of 22lr's. As for being on a "list", it is too late for me, so if I see a good deal, and need it, I buy it. You think the info you give Walmart is any worse than even posting it on sites like this? If you use a credit card, or a debit card, or go to the doctor or VA, or do anything on the internet, your info is there, if someone really wants it. Just saying.

I assume all the folks objecting to showing ID to buy ammo never ever buy ammo with a credit or debit card, if so I respect your commitment to privacy, although posting on this forum just outed you.

But if you use a credit or debit card, a lot more about you than you likely imagine is "recorded".

Cannibul said:

Before 1984 it was REQUIRED to show ID and have logged in a bound book ANY pistol ammo and ALL .22 ammo. Did the OP not purchase any ammo then?

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That must have been a local thing. I've been buying ammo since around 1965 and never had to show any ID. Before 68 you could buy a handgun through the mail and have it delivered to your house.

CapnMac said:

Thoaght that was '86 with FOPA. And that the requierment came to us with GCA 68.
I remember buying ammo at Three C Sporting goods in Bryan, Texas and having to wait while they logged the ammo in the ammo bound book. FedMart, even Lassiter's Outfitters.

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You're right it was '86. I misremembered when it was no longer required.

It's amazing how many people say it was a regional thing. Even a "Texas" thing. I was living and working in Washington state at the time. Two different retailers and both followed the law. It used to be one of the best ways to lose your FFL.

The last two months or so they have asked for my DOB. I just give them a different one every time.

It's nice to be at the age, and appearance, where I automatically get the Senior discount and nobody asks if I am old enough to buy ammo...

FROGO207 said:

Around here they are checking for age eligibility and if you are a US citizen. Lots of Canadians trying to buy handgun ammo for cheap and sneak it back to Canada free of paperwork.

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HMMM, maybe that's why they ask about citizenship in Erie, PA, but nowhere else. Canada is close enough to see.

When they ask me for my DL I always just hold a finger (No not THAT one) over the DL number.

Cannibul said:

84 it was REQUIRED to show ID and have logged in a bound book ANY pistol ammo and ALL .22 ammo. Did the OP not purchase any ammo then?

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Maybe where you live but I never heard of that in Washington.
I bought .22 ammo at a gas station when I was a kid.
Gave the guy 50 cents and he handed me a box of .22.
Glad I don't live in a place that requires crap like that.

I wonder where some people were living. Ammo records keeping was mandated by the 1968 Gun Control Act; it was ended by the 1986 Firearms Owners Protection Act. Part of federal law 1968, repealed by federal law 1986. (What? A federal ammunition law not enforced in Georgia? What's next? Colorado legalizing marijuana with the federal 1937 Marihauna Tax Act still in effect?)

I recall very distinctly that following the 1968 Gun Control Act that ammunition sales had to be recorded by the FFL in a bound book. I had to show driver's license as ID; the FFL then recorded name, address, date of birth, and ammunition make, caliber and quantity. I remember also that 1968 GCA stopped non-FFL stores from selling ammo: before 1968 I could buy ammo at several non-FFL outlets: service stations, country stores, the neighborhood department store. After 1968 GCA, ammo had to be bought at an FFL with records kept. I went from buying boxes of 50 .22s to buying cartons of ten boxes; I'd rather be annoyed once than ten times.

The Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 removed that federal requirement for record keeping at least on sales of most sporting ammunition. It was a pleasant surprise to buy ammo without the record keeping hassle and to be able to find ammo at country general stores.

Wally World and other big box stores have been making up their own rules up here for eons. Mind you, our law requires having a licence to buy ammo. Doesn't provide for retailers to keep records though.
"...Canadians trying to buy handgun ammo..." Ammo period. They've been repeatedly told it violates U.S. law and U.S. Customs has been known to stop out going Canadian vehicles to check. Silly shopping Stateside anyway given the 34% exchange rate. Not that our banks give that.

akarguy said:

It was in NH... a pretty 2A friendly state

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theres a real chance this is a store manager policy, and not a corporate rule. If you want to make the effort, you can call the market manager (you can get the contact number from any assistant manager), they do consider these complaints, and make changes based on them.

Carl N. Brown said:

The Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 removed that federal requirement for record keeping at least on sales of most sporting ammunition.

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Also making mail-order sales (to non-licensees) of ammunition possible.