CoalTrain49
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I don't know anyone who carries a 40 kw anymore. It's a dead watt.With recent advances in 9 kw plasma they are just as effective as the 40 kw.
I don't know anyone who carries a 40 kw anymore. It's a dead watt.With recent advances in 9 kw plasma they are just as effective as the 40 kw.
Personally, I have always favored the DA/SA configuration which is odd, considering that I currently do not own one. I do have a nifty DAO FN in 5.7x28. My other is a GLOCK which is striker fired. I suppose I need to add a DA/SA to my stable now so this thread is costing me money. Thanks a lot OP!
IIRC, the FN 5.7 is a SA with an internal hammer. Were you referring to another FN in the caliber?
Personally, I have always favored the DA/SA configuration which is odd, considering that I currently do not own one. I do have a nifty DAO FN in 5.7x28. My other is a GLOCK which is striker fired. I suppose I need to add a DA/SA to my stable now so this thread is costing me money. Thanks a lot OP!
There is a TITANIC benefit in the first shot-consistant shot to shot shot of the striker guns when shot.
Yea, if you do no not train with double action. It is all about range time and the individual. If you cannot handle the double action then just stick with striker fired.Just a matter of getting to know your gun and being one with the gun.
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After three trips to the range with SD9VE bought recently I prefer the SA/DA of my 5906. At the range pistol is in SA mode most the time loading and reloading first round , really can't tell much of a difference first shot with DA.
There is a TITANIC benefit in the first shot-consistant shot to shot shot of the striker guns when shot.
Totally agree. I have been shooting for years and the last 4 or 5 guns I have bought that are sub-compact or compact have been striker fired. My next purchase will be a single action/Double action or another revolver. My LC9S has worked it self down to around 4lbs and with a short crisp trigger, I just do not feel safe with the gun any longer. And I have been training with safeties for decades. Without the skill set and that light trigger I would just get rid of the gun. I will change out the springs, but still, I am moving back to a single/double action
I just wanted to quote this since it is correct.Traditional Double Action (TDA) pistols, commonly called DA/SA, ....
Traditional Double Action (TDA) pistols, commonly called DA/SA, can be very effectively used by folks who learn and practice a good trigger press technique for DA and SA trigger modes.
I grew up learning to shoot SA pistols and revolvers, and then added DA revolvers. The better my DA trigger press became, the better overall handgun shooter I became.
Personally, I miss the days when cops were required to learn to shoot DA revolvers in DA, and were only allowed to use a SA trigger press for a precision, longer range shot. Even then, after some unintentional shots were triggered in SA and stressful situations, with unfortunate results, a trend emerged here and there where some agencies wanted their revolvers to be DAO, so their people couldn't any longer cock them into the lighter SA mode.
When it came to the "average" revolver owner and shooter, it wasn't uncommon to see them on a target or plinking range resort to thumb-cocking the revolver into SA to shoot it, but that was seemingly because of a lack of confidence (and practiced skill?) in being able to make an accurate DA shot. Want to learn to use a DA trigger? That's a training & discipline issue.
When I was introduced to TDA pistols for work it became a matter of using my ingrained DA revolver and 1911 pistol skills to shoot them.
I remember when someone calling themselves a LE firearms instructor was able to safely and effectively use a DA revolver, a 1911 and the average TDA pistol. Nowadays? Unfortunately, it's not uncommon to hear someone calling themselves an instructor complain about a 6-8lb trigger on some plastic gun as has having too long of a trigger press, or not being "light enough", etc. Really?
Okay, I can see someone who works for an agency which only allows a specific plastic pistol having their abilities limited to only learning to use and teach using that specific pistol as issued safety equipment, but that seems to rather limit his/her ability in becoming a skilled, all-around handgunnner, let alone an instructor. Makes it kind of hard to knowledgeably help teach someone else how to use their DA/DAO revolvers, if those are authorized as off-duty and secondary weapons, don't you think?
I've heard the TDA pistol referred to as "the thinking man's gun", and to some extent I quite agree.
Then again, it's not unusual to see people content to only be able to operate their motor vehicles in non-emergency situations, only expecting to need their vehicle and normal driving skills to get them from Point A to Point B, under good conditions, without any surprises making demands upon their driving skills. It's hardly surprising that the basic (or recurrent in-service training) EVOC class/driving is sometimes difficult for newer cops, but that once trained to operate a motor vehicle under difficult, out-of-the-ordinary and emergency conditions, a better trained and skilled LE driver can become a better all-around driver.
I rather like my S&W 3rd gen pistols (9, .40 & .45), and as a S&W trained 3rd gen armorer I hope to keep them in good, operable conditions for many years to come. I still like my plastic pistols (GLocks and M&P's), 1911's and revolvers, too, and even the plastic pistols with TDA-ish and DAO function, like my SW99's and LCP's.
Never heard this term before this thread. I always figured there had to be a more eloquent way to name a DA/SA.I just wanted to quote this since it is correct.
We've had people on this forum call them "Transitional Double Action" and "SA/DA". Man, that drives me nuts.
I just wanted to quote this since it is correct.
We've had people on this forum call them "Transitional Double Action" and "SA/DA". Man, that drives me nuts.
Totally agree. I have been shooting for years and the last 4 or 5 guns I have bought that are sub-compact or compact have been striker fired. My next purchase will be a single action/Double action or another revolver. My LC9S has worked it self down to around 4lbs and with a short crisp trigger, I just do not feel safe with the gun any longer. And I have been training with safeties for decades. Without the skill set and that light trigger I would just get rid of the gun. I will change out the springs, but still, I am moving back to a single/double action.
For a long time now I have been carrying the LCR9mm and the Pico. Both guns with nice triggers for safety. (and I train religiously with them weekly.
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