doubleh
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I don't believe I could have twisted my arm hard enough to walk away from that, especially after reading your post #10.
Mmmmmmm, maybe a new 19, but the 19s of that era were prone to cracking the forcing cone if subjected to a steady diet of magnum loads. The N-frame .357s are overbuilt for their task, and that has a virtue all its own.
For an even more glorious, less practical gun, they had the Model 20 N-frame, chambered for the .38-44 Heavy Duty round- essentially a .38+P special.
I would kill for one.....
I carried a 4" model 29 as my trail/woods gun for 20 years. I took it in trade with no intention of keeping it, but I made the mistake of taking it in the woods one day. Carried beautifully in a high ride thumb snap Bianchi holster. Shot several deer and a few hogs with it. I don't mind the extra weight. As a young man I carried a model 19 on my trap line. Nice pistol, I just prefer the N frame. I only ever carry 5 rounds in them anyway, never needed any more I guess.Ultimately I would rather have Model 13 over a 19 or a 27/28. I realize its weakness but the 13/19 carries so nice compared to the an N-frame. If I am going to lug an N-frame around I want 8-shots and moonclips or big bore.
I actually prefer the older ones, pre cnc. Back when internal parts were made slightly oversized and then hand fitted.A few years ago when I was the "Heathen Cowboy" all I had for ccw and home defense was a 28-2 and a Condor hudson bay knife, you did amazing at 300 bucks and just cause it was made in '69 there is no reason it shouldnt last til at least 3069 if treated properly.
They certainly were made better, it takes a performance center model to come even close to off the rack back then.I actually prefer the older ones, pre cnc. Back when internal parts were made slightly oversized and then hand fitted.
I have shot the old revolvers, I own a few moderately older revolvers. It is not the age, it's the configuration, a 6-shot N-frame is a configuration that make little sense to my practical focus thought process. I have no doubt the fit and finish is fine to excellent. That said I would rather have a Model 19 from the same era than a Model 27/28. I presently own four N-frames and my 357 Mag N-frame is an 8-shooter.
They certainly were made better, it takes a performance center model to come even close to off the rack back then.
Maybe some newer S&W's are better than others? I have recently purchased a 442, a 686 Pro series and a 460 XVR and can't find fault with any of the three.
Never said they arent serviceable, but I can tell you my model 19-3 has a better trigger than my performance center 586 L Comp.Maybe some newer S&W's are better than others? I have recently purchased a 442, a 686 Pro series and a 460 XVR and can't find fault with any of the three.
I carried a 4" model 29 as my trail/woods gun for 20 years. I took it in trade with no intention of keeping it, but I made the mistake of taking it in the woods one day. Carried beautifully in a high ride thumb snap Bianchi holster. Shot several deer and a few hogs with it. I don't mind the extra weight. As a young man I carried a model 19 on my trap line. Nice pistol, I just prefer the N frame. I only ever carry 5 rounds in them anyway, never needed any more I guess.
Interesting. I'm just the opposite and would much prefer to shoot and carry an N frame. Actually did so for over 20 years while living in bear country. Course that was a .44, not a .357.
If you can't tell the difference between an old SW and a new SW, I'm not sure what to say. *Shrugs*Yes. I have several.
If you can't tell the difference between an old SW and a new SW, I'm not sure what to say. *Shrugs*
Enjoy your shooting!
A new S&W in the hands of a good S&W revolver-smith can produce a trigger on par with what S&W use to make IMHO.
look at a Model 27/28 and just see a lot of weight for no real advantage over other N-frame or other 357 Magnums.
They are actually HEAVIER than the .44 mag guns thanks to the extra thick cylinder walls!
Wouldn't want to carry any of these as a duty gun, no, but for target shooting the extra heft tames recoil and muzzle climb.
To give you an idea of my insanity, this is my grail gun:
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A 6-shot Ruger .357 Redhawk- they only made them from '77-79 (next to a M27 for comparison).
They are made of unobtanium, though. I just might have to settle for one of the new 8-shot Redhawks, I do like the moon clips on the new ones.
They are actually HEAVIER than the .44 mag guns thanks to the extra thick cylinder walls!
Wouldn't want to carry any of these as a duty gun, no, but for target shooting the extra heft tames recoil and muzzle climb.
To give you an idea of my insanity, this is my grail gun:
View attachment 794681
A 6-shot Ruger .357 Redhawk- they only made them from '77-79 (next to a M27 for comparison).
They are made of unobtanium, though. I just might have to settle for one of the new 8-shot Redhawks, I do like the moon clips on the new ones.
They are actually HEAVIER than the .44 mag guns thanks to the extra thick cylinder walls!
Wouldn't want to carry any of these as a duty gun, no, but for target shooting the extra heft tames recoil and muzzle climb.
To give you an idea of my insanity, this is my grail gun:
View attachment 794681
A 6-shot Ruger .357 Redhawk- they only made them from '77-79 (next to a M27 for comparison).
They are made of unobtanium, though. I just might have to settle for one of the new 8-shot Redhawks, I do like the moon clips on the new ones.
OK, I hit "Like" but only cause there's no "Like,but am jealous" button...Maybe I shouldn't tell you it came with 3 speed loaders and 2 boxes of defensive ammo,lol. All for the hefty sum of about $300.
They are actually HEAVIER than the .44 mag guns thanks to the extra thick cylinder walls!
Wouldn't want to carry any of these as a duty gun, no, but for target shooting the extra heft tames recoil and muzzle climb.
To give you an idea of my insanity, this is my grail gun:
View attachment 794681
A 6-shot Ruger .357 Redhawk- they only made them from '77-79 (next to a M27 for comparison).
They are made of unobtanium, though. I just might have to settle for one of the new 8-shot Redhawks, I do like the moon clips on the new ones.
For an even more glorious, less practical gun, they had the Model 20 N-frame, chambered for the .38-44 Heavy Duty round- essentially a .38+P special.
O boy........this is going to be interesting.