.223/5.56 novelty fireball loads

Hi, I don’t know if this has already been posted before but I’m reaching out registering load data on getting a Federal .223 equivalent load that shoots fire. So far I’ve used BL-(c)2 and CFE 223 max charge for my A3 platform. But haven’t quite been able to duplicate the fire out of the barrel like Federals. (See picture) I’m aware that federal uses a non canister powder but nothing I’ve loaded burns as hot or as slow. And CFE223 seems to be the slowest burning powder on the burn chart for .223. Let me know what you all think.

Reason I’m asking is they are loud and super fun when we have people come over.
Also FYI I’m a certified Reloader. And have a lot of equipment to get the job done.

edwardware said:

I see your fireball, and raise you a 45gr .224 VMax riding into glory on a book charge of AA2230:

. . . the 10.5" pistol barrel may have helped a smidge.

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Lol yeah buddy and the vertical comp shoots it all forward! Sheesh. AA2230, what’s your charge? That’s pretty sweet.

Waterboy3313 said:

I bought some frontier brand .223 from a local store. That stuff shoots fireballs in broad daylight. Shooting at night would probably require sunglasses. In the the words of Billy Zane from the movie sniper "May you go blind."

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Haha, that’s the same with Federal .223 MSR huge fire in broad daylight.

Scooter22 said:

You want fireballs get a Mosin.
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Damn that’s awesome.

Demi-human said:

Use something slower yet. Try 760 or H-4350.
With a light weight bullet, so it will get out of the way of the fire.
See if there are any slower powders without flash suppressants.
With a very slow powder the trick is getting enough in to work well. Expect to hear crunching.

And finally, when you find something that works well for you, come back and tell us about it!
(All my fire comes from H-110, via pistols.)

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I use H-110 in my DE and .300 BLK pistols gets a huge fire ball very loud and fun.

Demi-human said:

Use something slower yet. Try 760 or H-4350.
With a light weight bullet, so it will get out of the way of the fire.
See if there are any slower powders without flash suppressants.
With a very slow powder the trick is getting enough in to work well. Expect to hear crunching.

And finally, when you find something that works well for you, come back and tell us about it!
(All my fire comes from H-110, via pistols.)

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I will! Defiantly report back to you, thank you for all of the encouragement even a long time coming for the AR loads lol

wbbh said:

Yes! Myself and an RO noticed another shooter was getting terrific fireballs out of an AR. We asked what ammo he was using and it was Frontier .223. I borrowed a couple of rounds and fired them in my AR so he could see what we were talking about. Same effect, he was also impressed..While firing the rounds the flash was not particularly noticeable.

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Yeah you can really see the flash when shooting as much as when your a bystander. seems they use a slower burning powder as well.