Would you do this deal if it was your rifle for sale?

Sounds like a scam to me. Even the wording sounds like what another member here got when trying to sell a handgun a while back.

Once ai decide to sell something I am not holding it for someone I don’t know. And I am only selling to people I do not suspect are not legal buyers.

I would not. Smells fishy to me.

If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

.40

I wouldn’t even reply

I'd tell him to pay in full now, (cash) and in 30 days "if" he doesn't get his license, I'd refund half... lol

DM

If he wants to send you a money order for more than the asking price and have you send him the difference, don't do it. A classic.

It wouldn't be something that would interest me if simply because if it's 100% legit, he's anticipating no issues getting his permit. If there's an issue of any sort it could get messy. If he's local and you can verify in any way who he is, and it's cash in hand, along with possibly a signed document stating the whole deal...signed and notarized...maybe.

First and foremost if you sell it to him now that’s an illegal sale so decision made (NO!) Also guarantee it’s a scam and selling online is sketchy enough without these ridiculous offerings of “I am most interesting in to purchase your item at the more money if you are to holding it for me”. Do not reply.

The wording is better than any ive seen that were straight up scams. Tho its always worth asking questions if any buyer. Sometimes its as simple as asking which gun they are looking at, and for a phone number.

If you talk to the dude and YOU want to sell him the rifle after he gets his permit/license, then thats up to you. Unless i didnt really care about selling the gun, didnt need the cash, and was feeling generous, id pass

Classic Nigerian Scam wording.

GRIZ22 said:

Classic Nigerian Scam wording.

Click to expand...

Most scammers don't differentiate between your/you're that well. Hell, most real people don't.

It's your gun and you get to do whatever you want.

Buyer has no say ... Period.

If you are uncomfortable with anything, you don't have to do anything ... Period.

Simple solution is keep on advertising your rifle and the buyer can contact you once license was obtained. If buyer is not happy with that, too bad ... It's life.

Oh, and you get to tell any buyer showing interest that you already had $100 over asking price offer.

It might be step 1 of a scam or it might be legit. There is no 21 YO federal requirement to purchase a long gun. Some States do limit rifle purchases to over 21. Ask what state the person lives in and check tat state’s law. If there is no age restriction the fellow is a scammer or woefully uninformed. If there is an age restriction ask for $100 deposit to hold it for a month. Or, just say no.

I would go ahead and sell it to the next buyer who can pay now. Even if he is legit there is no guarantee he will end up buying it.

Yeah, red flags abound: Like needing a "license" to buy a rifle.
Also the sale to underage, is not a good sign, either.

If the buyer is in a place with that strict of ownership laws, what others are being skipped over? AWB, features, approved lists, living in Canada or Mexico?


Now, giving benefit of the doubt, were a person so inclined, tell the kid to go get the FFL paperwork for the dealer you would ship to. And make that a non-negotiable. Puts the onus back on the buyer and not you.

Assuming it is legit (probably not), the person is saying they are not currently legal to purchase the item but want you to enter into a sales contract with them. That may put you into legal jeopardy for knowingly initiating a sale with a prohibited person. Not like the Bloomberg people haven't done similar things in the past. I would say sorry, check back when you are legal. Besides it's not like these guns are super rare. You can find one pretty much any time though prices might stink.

He's putting you on notice he can't legally own the gun, take his money and that sounds like an illegal sale to me.

His FFL can buy it, funds to come from the FFL to you. FFL can sell it to him when it's legal.

Or just forget it and don't let the extra hundred blind you into doing something you're not comfortable with.

I'd be hesitant, but looking at it I'm not real sure how it's a scam.

Where I live (your mileage may vary), you DON'T need a license to buy a rifle, and you only need to be 18, not 21. In my state, we're allowed to meet and do a face-to-face deal, but just like craigslist stuff, that's not a recommended action (potential set-up for a robbery). If it IS done face-to-face, people recommend daytime in a monitored parking lot, such as a Walmart or even a police station. Lots recommend doing it via an FFL, even if not required.

If you're shipping, it has to go to an FFL, far as I know. Buyer and seller don't ever meet, and you don't ship until you get payment. Can't see how that would be too risky to you; worst case scenario you get your money and he can't get it released. Sucks for him, up to you whether you want to pay him back and take the rifle back, otherwise he bought it for the FFL.

If it's a restricted state in some manner, follow whatever laws apply. I know a bunch of places don't sell to certain states, if this gun is illegal there I'd just say no (or flat ignore the request).

I have a Century C308, the PTR-91's cheaper cousin. We're just talking a semi-auto rifle with a detachable magazine. What states require a license for that?-- Yick, I just looked it up, it appears there are a few. That really sucks. So glad I live in a free state.
After looking at the list of licensed states, I'd be halfway inclined to respond in the following- "I will give you a month to obtain and provide the necessary stuff, at the agreed-upon price. I won't accept any prior payment in the meantime. If I don't hear back from you within that period, I will sell this to another buyer. Please keep me informed of all status changes."

The simple answer is, “I’m not willing to take the rifle off the market. If the rifle is still available when you are legally able to purchase, it’ll still be listed and you can inquire again then.”

I don’t see any special reason to believe it’s a scam. Yes it has an appeal to greed (the extra hundred) just as many scams do, but there is a non-scam reason.

Having once been in the position of finding a used gun I liked before I was of age to legally buy it, I can completely understand someone who wants to take a gun they like “off the market” until their age catches up to their intentions, and then complete the sale. Nothing illegal or nefarious about it. “If you agree to hold on to this until I can buy it, I’ll buy it and pay you extra for your trouble.” The sale doesn’t actually happen, just the agreement to sell later. And if they for whatever reason can’t buy you are still free to sell to someone else.

GRIZ22 said:

Classic Nigerian Scam wording.

Click to expand...

That’s the first thing I thought of too. If you agree to sell I’d bet money that the buyer will come up with another twist that’s even fishier.

In addition, as Skylerbone stated, taking the guy’s money now would be illegal.

Scam by a bot.

Cash is king. Have your ffl guy send me the money and he gets the gun.
No doe, no go.

My problem with this is, people are fickle. Dude may be legit and have every intention to go through with the sale -today. Tomorrow he’ll probably need rent money or get a killer deal on a new exhaust for his truck, or have to bail his buddy out of jail, or..... I wouldn’t be willing to take the gun off the market for a whole month, for something that may or may not be a scam, and may not happen (probably not) even if it’s sincere.