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Nobody that I know currently. CZ used to but I think they discontinued it. Tikka used to but I think the discontinued it also. Sometimes Ruger does a special run of unique calibers each year.
6.5 CM really that much better than the 243?
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Where do you get that? I've yet to see anyone make either claim. And everyone knows "best" is about as subjective as you can get. As a long range caliber, the 6.5CM does (or at least did at the time it was introduced) offer a lot of advantages over other common factory calibers. Hornady supports the caliber to the extent that the Average Joe can buy a box of Hornady match ammo, buy a factory rifle, and get right into long range shooting and possibly eliminate some of the learning curve involved with long range shooting and also not have to form their own brass and work up an accurate load for their rifle. The cartridge started exposing a lot of new shooters to an aspect of shooting (long range) that they might not have thought financially possible, and that is something that should be applauded.
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There are very few true short actions anymore,so the 6.5Swede being a touch longer won't matter in most guns.
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It must be a serious character flaw of mine because a cartridge being able to be chambered in a short action means nothing to me and has zero influence on my purchasing decisions. It just doesn’t matter to me.
I totally agree.
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The thing that intrigues me most about the 6.5 Creedmoor is why it’s so difficult for so many people to spell the name correctly.
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Sako, Tikka, Howa(I think) and Mauser. There are a couple of the high end European companies making them. I don’t believe there is much advantage the 6.5x55 has over the Creedmoor other than you can push it faster, but not by much if you hand load and the rifle is a modern action. Visually comparing the two the 6.5x55 may feed a little easier. And as has already been mentioned the Swede is better for really heavy for caliber bullets because not as much powder capacity is displaced.
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Won't fit in a 700 short action or any of the 700 short action clones.
Given the number of 700's and 700 clones and compatible derivatives there are there is still a lot of short and long action guns out there and being made. For a hunter it might not make much difference other than a few ounces heavier receiver. But I cycling a short action without breaking cheek weld is easier with a short action than a long action and that can be beneficial for faster followup shots especially in awkward positions. More frequently useful in competition but hunting too.
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I meant to type CZ and forgot, getting old is a b-tch.
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.85 with a Remington and it's clones. That typically shaves about 4 oz of the weight of the rifle's receiver & bolt. It does not seem like much but if you ever have a chance get down on both actions one after the other and try to cycle them without lifting your head you will see that the short action is much easier for most shooters to do that with. Again that may not mean much to many and that is OK. You don't see many shooting PRS matches using long actions both for the shortness and the stiffness of the short action.
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CZ, Sako/Tika, Sauer, Steyer, Blaser, & Ruger.
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Name another cartridge that has done as well as the 6.5 Creedmoor has done in the first 13 years of its life its a well thought out cartridge you don’t have to badmouth it every time it’s mentioned if it weren’t as good as they claim it to be why is it kicking ass in the sales department?
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I forgot about Ruger too, and though I’m not big on Ruger I’d make an exception for a 6.5x55 African any day and twice on Sunday.
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js8588
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I have one. It's excellent.
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I want one. They compare well with the Rigby Highland Stalker in the looks department.
js8588
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Get one. You won't regret it.
Ive got both, and while i dont really do much with the .243, for 99% of what i do its probably more efficient.
*waves hand vaguely* Yes, this IS the rifle you are looking for....
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The answer is "yes"
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It might just be me but if I am hunting in the woods and I shoot a deer at maximum woods range and it runs out of sight, that is unacceptable to me.
I have never shot a deer with a 243 or a 6.5mm anything but they would not even be in the top 10 or maybe even 20 on my list for the hunting I do.
Yeah go ahead and say shot placement this and CNS that but I know what I have seen and big holes put game down faster with similar shot placement.
If you want unknowns over the hill or across the property line keep using the bare minimums.
Having said all that, if I hunted more open terrain I would undoubtedly consider a 6 or 6.5mm but would probably opt for the 7mm-08.
I have never shot a deer with a 243 or a 6.5mm anything but they would not even be in the top 10 or maybe even 20 on my list for the hunting I do.
Yeah go ahead and say shot placement this and CNS that but I know what I have seen and big holes put game down faster with similar shot placement.
If you want unknowns over the hill or across the property line keep using the bare minimums.
Having said all that, if I hunted more open terrain I would undoubtedly consider a 6 or 6.5mm but would probably opt for the 7mm-08.
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Okay
Back to the original topic;
IMO yes it is a better cartridge due to the design of the creedmoor case that promotes brass and barrel life. As far as performance I’ll go out on a limb and use common sense saying whatever a 243 can do the Creedmoor can do it better.
Hey keep yer 243 I love um too, just ain’t no Creedmoor same as a 30.06 ain’t no 300 WSM
Ha” how’s that for stirring the soup.....
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I really doubt you're getting a 3.15 length cartridge in a short action (700 or otherwise) designed around the 308 Win family of cartridges that are only ~2.80 inches long. We are talking about finding nearly 3/8-inch in the magazine well. So even if it's possible it still a fairly custom gun to force 6.5x55 into a short action. There is a reason a few of the action makers make a medium length action just for 6.5x55 and a few similar intermediate length cartridges.
6.5 Creedmoor makes it easy. It fits in nearly any gun that works with 308, with basically a barrel change. Runs with the same bolt, same magazines. It doesn't mater if it is a blind magazine ADL, or a high dollar chassis gun, or a AR-10 gas gun. A barrel change and you can go from 308 to 6.5 Creedmoor. Much in the same way 300 BO owes at least a portion of its popularity to being such an easy change from 223/556.
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