Do we buy weapons or firearms?

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Most here refer to their rifles and pistols as weapons. Many are mfg'd with that intent; many were and now aren't used that way now; many aren't mfg'd that way at all. I understand the military indoctrination carry over after separation

Years ago when I ran junior shooting and NRA programs for the state association and 4H, I tried to instll in the kids that they were shooting rifles, pistols or firearms and to refer to them as such, severaly or individually, not as "weapons". The other adult coaches were harder to break.

I found most kids in a shooting program learned how to, and more importantly practiced gun handling safety. Their parents and the kids dropped the "weapon" reference. We cautioned the parents to talk to their kids about discussing their participation in the organized shooting sports at school.

This insanity over expelling kids for taking a cap gun to school, or having a picture of a gun in a book was just starting.

Long story just to question the use of the word "weapon" whan referri g to our firearms and the image it conjures up in some (@#%=÷+) peoples minds. Little ears are always listening.
 
laws typically determine what defines that word as in a weapon. I call knives cutting tools not weapons as an example, but laws can call it a weapon. depending on its length and edges and how it opens, etc.

apply that to firearms as well.
 
I personally refer to the guns I buy for self/home defense as weapons.
The rest are just guns, that’s just how I break it down but I don’t really think it matters. It’s mainly just semantics isn’t it?

Interestingly, many of my guns were (past tense) weapons. My Mosin, Garand, 303 Enfield etc were literally “weapons of war” as the freedom haters love to say. Now they are just collectibles that I enjoy target shooting with.

Meanwhile my NAA 22 is a weapon.
 
I think it also depends on background. In the military (at least when I was in) anything that went bang was called a weapon. I often catch myself conflicted about which is the more acceptable way depending on who I'm having the conversation with. In today's climate, and the way people seem to only pick up on context when it suits their point, firearm is probably the way to go. Any firearm I own has the potential to be deployed as a weapon just the same a my Stanley hammer, the 9 iron, or whatever other tool that happens to be available to stop whatever attack is launched at me or my family.
 
They are all tools. In my irresponsible youth, I was involved in an altercation in an establishment that ended up on the floor. During the fracas, I hit my attacker with a dispenser for paper napkins. Is a napkin dispenser a weapon? When I joined the military, drill sgt told us WE were weapons. I tend to believe that guy.
 
The weapon terminology comes mostly from military and LEO use. The more specific term is firearm, as weapons include armor, aircraft, halberds, trade sanctions and pathogens. I like to be specific when I can.

I agree. It seems like some people forget that words get taking out of context for the purposes of utilizing the worst possible meaning to fit their own agenda. So it is important to pay attention to the literal definition of the words we say.
 
If I own for social work, I regard it as a weapon. If I own it for hunting, plinking, collecting, or competition, I refer to it as a firearm or by the class of firearm that it falls into.
 
I use “weapon” to refer to firearms. If it can hurt man, or animal, it is a weapon. I will also use the word “tool,” in reference to serious-use firearms. I reckon that a range toy is a range toy, but it is still a weapon. Safety-mindedness requires us to remember that all firearms, all weapons, can hurt us, or others, if misused. Defensive weapon, hunting weapon, sporting weapon. It all makes sense, to my brain. I will not bow to what I see as “politically correctness” making its way into my speech.

Regarding PC, I have noticed that it is trendy to refer such things as tennis racquets and camera lenses as “weapons.” So, yeah, my firearm is a weapon, too, because it is a weapon.

I am probably less likely to use “weapon,” if the firearm is specifically designed to punch paper, or break clay.

If someone chides me, for using “weapon” to refer to a firearm, I will remind them that an archeology or history textbook will use “weapon” to refer to prehistoric and ancient bows, arrows, spears, atlatls, and such, in the hunting context.

The “rules” of writing a well-composed paper discourage the over-use of any one word, with too short of a space. So, one item may be a firearm, a tool, a weapon, and an implement, within one paragraph.

OK, time to walk my weaponized, tactical rat terrier. ;) (OK, she is an early warning system, not a weapon. Unless a rat invades.)
 
I buy both considering I collect guns and blades.

I agree with those that say "anything can be used for a weapon" and happily point out that many if not most firearms had their origins in designs for military or law enforcement and have evolved the design of hunting and sport firearms.

BUT it is also important to be mindful that we put ourselves in a trap set by ourselves when we only refer to "guns" as weapons. If it is absurd for someone to think of guns as having only the purpose of killing people and wanting to take all firearms and melt them down, then isn't is absurd to only refer to firearms as weapons since that isn't their exclusive purpose?
 
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Do we buy weapons or firearms?

Yes.

Whatever floats your boat.

I went through these very discussions with other instructors in the past as well and found them to be silly and unworthy of serious discussions.

Firearms, weapons, arms, call them whatever you want.

Treat them all with the respect they should be given and use them appropriately as the circumstances dictate. That is what we should be filling little ears with.
 
As “objects” they are guns/firearms. As tools their intended use dictates their label.
All my guns are firearms, only one is a weapon, the one I carry.
 
I couldn't care less what anyone calls then. Arms. Weapons. Gun. Smoke wagon. Even shotty or gat although I do cringe a little on those. I don't think I've ever called one a weapon but its splitting hairs.
Same for the revolver-pistol argument. I dont even care about the magazine/clip argument, although a good friend of mine had to wear a hair clip all day once in the police academy for using the term.

I live in the south. Been here in the Appalachian mountains all my life. If I bothered correcting people for their language I'd never get anything done. Looking out the winder. Building a far. Smoke going up the chimley. Ustacould? Lol. Weapon vs armament vs firearm is of little importance to me. The media has moved past the point of using such light terms now anyway. Its assault weapons now.
 
and happily point out that many if not most firearms had their origins in designs for military or law enforcement

Id agree most were made for that purpose. If not then they were based on a Browning patent that was. Lol

If it is absurd for someone to think of guns as having only the purpose of killing people

I would also point out that its probably a small fraction of a single percent of the guns in America that have killed anything. Much less a person. And even less an innocent person.

Id love to know the percent that have never been fired since the week they were brought home if at all.
 
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