Kids, cookies, pizza, firearms

[artherd]

It doesn't work to tell a child about the dangers of drowning; that's why we have fences around swimming pools.

That's why we teach them to SWIM! That actually works, and is the ONLY thing that really works!

Teach the kids how to handle a gun, how to shoot, and guess what? When they find one of those hunks of metal behind the bushes, it'll be nothing special or forbidden, and they'll just come get mom and dad to come get it.

It won't be 'cool' or 'neat' and they won't want to point at their buddies head like they see on TV.

 

[Aguila Blanca]

It doesn't work to tell a child not to touch medications; that's why we have child-proof caps.

Child proof caps are intended to protect toddlers. As anyone with kids knows, they are ineffective on kids 6 and older. The only thing they accomplish is to make it more difficult for the elderly and arthritic to open their meds. The usual response is to ask a handy grandchild to remove the so-called "child proof" cap.

 

[Flyboy]

Well...

I'm no p-sychiatrist, with no fancy book-larnin', but I do remember when I was ten or eleven. I remember being at a friend's house, and watching a movie I shouldn't have been watching (lots of swordplay, and a few things that would displease Art's Grammaw). Afterward, still being in "the mood" from the swordplay, my friend decided to show me his daddy's .44 Magnum. I distinctly recall telling him no, and when he ignored me, I remember watching him to make sure he kept the dangerous end pointed in a safe direction, and his finger off the trigger (he did, probably accidentally). I also remember refusing to touch it.

When he put it away (about two minutes, realizing I wasn't going to have any part of it), I went home. Never did go back to his house.

 

[migoi]

I wonder about the..

pairings and counting methods of the study used to decide educational programs don't work. If the pairings were having a non-trained child (NTC) and a trained child (TC) together or if there were pairings with two NTC or two TC.

To really study the effects of the training you would have to run several iterations of the experiment using TC pairs, NTC pairs, and TC/NTC pairs and statistically parse the results. Sample sizes of 34 and 36 seems terribly small e to be using the results to decide public policy.

I would also think the validity of the results would be diminished if you used any individual child in more that one interation through the room.

This speculating of course sets aside the fact that children rarely learn any skill, much less any attitude, in one set of lessons. If children could learn even something as basic as the addition tables in one run through then elementary school would be about the length of your typical spring break.

There is so much wrong with the educational theory behind the study that it is useless for anything other than giving the good doctor a nice cocktail party story.

migoi

 

[dolanp]

That's why we teach them to SWIM! That actually works, and is the ONLY thing that really works!

Exactly, that's a perfect analogy. Some people put up fences around pools, just like most parents lock up their guns, but neither one will do a damn bit of good when the kid gets into the situation anyways. Don't teach 'em to swim and they'll be liable to drown throughout the rest of their life whenever they unexpectedly encounter water. Ditto for abusing/misusing guns.

 

[Black Snowman]

Ignorance is the only protection! If we put the kids heads deep enough in the sand they'll suffocate and never be a danger to themselves or sociecty. Too bad this woman couldn't take her own advice and got "educated" and is spewing her garbage all over as an "expert".

The definition of an expert is someone you don't know well enough to trust, holding a piece of paper telling you to do just that. . . .