ThomasT
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How does it shoot?
See my earlier post.
How does it shoot?
Oversized throats are not a guarantee of issues either. How it shoots is the first measurement that should be made.
It is if you like to shoot cheap lead bullets. After discovering how big throats were on Taurus Judges, it hardly sees them anymore because I don't like running a copper scrubber down the bore after shooting. For now it's a plated and jacketed only revolver.Oversized throats are not a guarantee of issues either. How it shoots is the first measurement that should be made.
Among gun writers like Dave Scoville, Mike Venterino and Terry Murbach there is. As Mike Venterino liked to say that if you drop a bullet in the cylinder and it falls through and hits your toe you will most likely not get your best accuracy. My throats at .433 will probably work well enough with lead bullets in that size range but bullets like Berry's at .429 and XTPs at .430 probably will not be as accurate as they could be if the throats were a smaller size. I can make my cast bullets smaller to fit the throats but there is nothing I can do to increase the size of factory made jacketed bullets. And I don't know of anyone who makes a jacketed bullet that large.
Other way around.I thought having cylinder throats that are too small swaging the bullets down caused more leading problems than having ones that are larger?
You got that backwards, if you shoot .430 lead bullets in a .433 throated revolver, the bore will get leaded up in less than 30 rounds and accuracy will quickly be affected, but with plated or jacketed bullets they will work just fine. I bought a box of .308" Speer semi jacketed 100 grain "plinker" bullets for use in a .327 revolver that has .314 throats and a .310 groove diameter. The bullets didn't have good neck tension at all, so I had to shoot them one at a time because I knew they'd jump crimp after one shot. I was hitting 8 inch plates at 15 yards no problem.Among gun writers like Dave Scoville, Mike Venterino and Terry Murbach there is. As Mike Venterino liked to say that if you drop a bullet in the cylinder and it falls through and hits your toe you will most likely not get your best accuracy. My throats at .433 will probably work well enough with lead bullets in that size range but bullets like Berry's at .429 and XTPs at .430 probably will not be as accurate as they could be if the throats were a smaller size. I can make my cast bullets smaller to fit the throats but there is nothing I can do to increase the size of factory made jacketed bullets. And I don't know of anyone who makes a jacketed bullet that large.
Other way around.
Too "loose" allows the hot gasses to blow past the base of the bullet & cause the base to melt.
Gas checks can help to some degree.
You got that backwards, if you shoot .430 lead bullets in a .433 throated revolver, the bore will get leaded up in less than 30 rounds and accuracy will quickly be affected, but with plated or jacketed bullets they will work just fine.
Would love to know what diameter the throats were. Should be .452, but given how hot .454 is I'll bet Ruger opened the throats up to .454 and if you call to complain the CS rep will say something dopey like, "Well, it's a .454 Casull, not a .452 Casull!"I've seen several people say that their Ruger .454 Casulls could not reach published velocities due to oversized throats.
No, it isn't.It is if you like to shoot cheap lead bullets.
You’re thinking “bore” not “cylinder throats”Other way around.
Too "loose" allows the hot gasses to blow past the base of the bullet & cause the base to melt.
Gas checks can help to some degree.
Nope - throats is what I have in mind. But - I do admit I was too quick to dismiss the effect of chamber mouths that are too small. Those can also be problematic.You’re thinking “bore” not “cylinder throats”
Agree to disagree thenNo, it isn't.
I'm not going to agree to disagree when I know your statement is flat wrong.Agree to disagree then