100+ year old rifles

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Even more fascinating intrigue.

Yup, me and a pal could slow-burn through some scotch hypothetializing over that one.:thumbup:

Todd.

Hey...I want to come. I can hypothelate and hypothelize, and make up stuff as well as the next guy burning through Scotch. I had a SA Mosin, but let it go like the fool that I am.
 
Hey...I want to come. I can hypothelate and hypothelize, and make up stuff as well as the next guy burning through Scotch. I had a SA Mosin, but let it go like the fool that I am.
Used to be a great, low-buck non shooting thing to do hanging out in the barracks. Holding one of our latest GI town, pawn shop acquisitions and wending vast and deep tales of a gun's possible past.

Suffice it to say, none ever had a past of sitting in a warehouse or consigned to training/guard duty.

Well, Ok, maybe guarding the Trans-Siberian from Red counter-attacks.;) We, of course, built the tales to end as counter-Commie with glorious and lurid detail.

Todd.
 
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Most of my M-39's are/were built on pre '98 receivers because I could get them via USPS and skip the FFL fee, here in the Arctic.

The other Mosin's I have had or have were picked up as I saw and handled them, mostly at the gunshop in our hub Village of Kotzebue..

Along with a Finn SAKO M-39 built on a Chattrault '93 receiver (the oldest) I have a couple Alaska territorial Guard M-1917's made in 1918.

The oldest gun I have ever shot an animal (a Caribou) was with an 1876 made Berdan II Carbine, but just that one time.
 
I am about 99% sure that one rifle I have is over 100. It was used but nice when it came into the family in 1926. Purchased by my great great grandfather as a gift for my grandfather, the old no-name 22 single shot has been with my grandfather from the time he was 4 until a couple years ago when we swapped to give him a bit more firepower for defense (marlin 60). It’s already a sore spot in the family as it was promised to everybody in the country and likely a few foreigners as well... but it’s here and it’s staying here unless he asks for it to come back.
 
I shoot a 115 year old Marlin 1892 in competition, regularly use a 116 year old Swedish Mauser, and I am working on getting a 140 year old German stalking rifle based on the 1871 Mauser to competition worthy. Finally, I have a hunting rifle built on a 111 year old Gewehr 98 receiver currently at NECG getting rings made for the claw mounts.


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Now that’s what I am talking about! That rifle is sweet.
 
I have several WWI - WWII milsurps that qualify and have no problems shooting them (after thorough cleaning and inspection); what I wouldn't give for one of those Winchester 1873's or Marlin 1892's pictured above - neato!!
 
1916; 1903.

This one has a whale of a tale to tell you lads...

So, then, I get called to an estate sale to look at some old *Army guns* for a friend. The estate (not deceased but winding down) is a fella and his sister from California. When I first see this Springfield, I would have bet it was in a Ram-Line stock but also would have bet it was some poncy *parade rifle*. probably de-watted at that.

Oh no!

This fella had bought an old DCM gun back when he was young to keep on his boat. You know, for sharks and pirates and such.:rofl: No kidding, their words.

Eventually, he takes it to an old-school plater in *L.A* to fight salt to fight pirates... and such.

Then, he decides that the wood might also be harmed hanging over the gunwales popping sharks, boarders... whatever. So, off it goes to get this, no doubt currently felonious, black-plasti-shield laid over all the wood.

Here's the beauty of things, he had the test data from an armorer for critical dimension both before and after the nickel was applied to ensure that tolerances wouldn't be queered. Also, had the receiver magni-fluxed due to the ghosty-tales of spontaneously failing low-numbered receivers. I know.... I KNOW! Please save it.;)

I just wish he had tracked down period correct floor-plate and sling swivels for it.

Anyhow - I get this goofy thing and when I get home, the paperwork including a slip long-lease receipt are in the buttstock. SCORE!

To make things even better, try as I might, I could not get that damn plasticization to let-go the wood. I absolutely didn't want to sand it. Here's where my wife steps in.

She does lots of antique and furniture restoration and when I ask her what she'd use, she just grabs the stock and says to let her "... see what she can do." for it.

Damn if but 2 hours later she doesn't return two of the most magnificent pieces of walnut that I've EVER had on a G.I. gun!:what:

Initially, I had thought to pass this one on to one of the museums I deal with or sell it outright at the Vegas show but then, as it's sitting in a rack on my table, one of my very best buddies rolls by asking me about it. I spin the yarn and he says to definitely NOT sell it until he gets back from his table.
On his return he hands me this bayonet, grabs it back and slips it on my rifle.

Says he: "How 'bout now?"

Says I: "Well, that's not for sale anymore!" I figure I'll cut down some vintage scrap walnut stock and make handles for it one day... maybe hickory?

Then I gets to thinkin': Man, I wish I was still in contact with that old fella that I got the guns from. How in the world, did he not have a bayonet too? You know, for stickin' sharks, and pirates and such?

How's it shoot you ask? Like a dream. An Arizona, triple-polarized eye-wear frikken nearly blinding dream!
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Todd.
 
Savage 1899 in 22 SHP. Pre WWI. Brass round counter and all.

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Gewher 98 made at the JP Sauer and Sohn "arsenal" in Suhl, 1916. Sporterized over 50 years ago. No import marks. Need to confirm it is a 30-06 still.

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This one cant be shot without a liner in the barrel... Hopkins and Allen No.922 takedown 22 single shot. H&A burned down for the final time in 1915, IIRC.

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This one shoots wonderfully. A Winchester '73 in 32-20. Mfg 1890. Special order 30" full octagon barrel with full mag tube and crescent buttplate. One family owned it until I bought it about 2012.
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I have a trio of winchester 1897s that fit the bill. As well as a few pistols, both semi-auto and revolvers.
 
Savage 1899 in 22 SHP. Pre WWI. Brass round counter and all.

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Gewher 98 made at the JP Sauer and Sohn "arsenal" in Suhl, 1916. Sporterized over 50 years ago. No import marks. Need to confirm it is a 30-06 still.

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This one cant be shot without a liner in the barrel... Hopkins and Allen No.922 takedown 22 single shot. H&A burned down for the final time in 1915, IIRC.

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This one shoots wonderfully. A Winchester '73 in 32-20. Mfg 1890. Special order 30" full octagon barrel with full mag tube and crescent buttplate. One family owned it until I bought it about 2012.
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I have a trio of winchester 1897s that fit the bill. As well as a few pistols, both semi-auto and revolvers.

Your Savage 99 looks exactly like mine, brass counter and all.
 
I hunt and target shoot with two of my Great-Great-Great Grandfathers percussion muzzle loaders built in the 1840's. One is a .31 caliber, and the other is a .35 caliber.

Does either one have "P B" on the barrel?
 
1916; 1903.

This one has a whale of a tale to tell you lads...

So, then, I get called to an estate sale to look at some old *Army guns* for a friend. The estate (not deceased but winding down) is a fella and his sister from California. When I first see this Springfield, I would have bet it was in a Ram-Line stock but also would have bet it was some poncy *parade rifle*. probably de-watted at that.

Oh no!

This fella had bought an old DCM gun back when he was young to keep on his boat. You know, for sharks and pirates and such.:rofl: No kidding, their words.

Eventually, he takes it to an old-school plater in *L.A* to fight salt to fight pirates... and such.

Then, he decides that the wood might also be harmed hanging over the gunwales popping sharks, boarders... whatever. So, off it goes to get this, no doubt currently felonious, black-plasti-shield laid over all the wood.

Here's the beauty of things, he had the test data from an armorer for critical dimension both before and after the nickel was applied to ensure that tolerances wouldn't be queered. Also, had the receiver magni-fluxed due to the ghosty-tales of spontaneously failing low-numbered receivers. I know.... I KNOW! Please save it.;)

I just wish he had tracked down period correct floor-plate and sling swivels for it.

Anyhow - I get this goofy thing and when I get home, the paperwork including a slip long-lease receipt are in the buttstock. SCORE!

To make things even better, try as I might, I could not get that damn plasticization to let-go the wood. I absolutely didn't want to sand it. Here's where my wife steps in.

She does lots of antique and furniture restoration and when I ask her what she'd use, she just grabs the stock and says to let her "... see what she can do." for it.

Damn if but 2 hours later she doesn't return two of the most magnificent pieces of walnut that I've EVER had on a G.I. gun!:what:

Initially, I had thought to pass this one on to one of the museums I deal with or sell it outright at the Vegas show but then, as it's sitting in a rack on my table, one of my very best buddies rolls by asking me about it. I spin the yarn and he says to definitely NOT sell it until he gets back from his table.
On his return he hands me this bayonet, grabs it back and slips it on my rifle.

Says he: "How 'bout now?"

Says I: "Well, that's not for sale anymore!" I figure I'll cut down some vintage scrap walnut stock and make handles for it one day... maybe hickory?

Then I gets to thinkin': Man, I wish I was still in contact with that old fella that I got the guns from. How in the world, did he not have a bayonet too? You know, for stickin' sharks, and pirates and such?

How's it shoot you ask? Like a dream. An Arizona, triple-polarized eye-wear frikken nearly blinding dream!
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Todd.
Thats a Sweet Springer for sure!
 
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I forgot about my 1891 Monkey Mausers, the bottom rifle has a AXXX serial number, so I figure it was made in 1892, the top rifle I don't know it's age, but I assume production of the 1891 ceased before 1900. They have both gone hunting with me, but never kilt nothing. I plan to take the bottom rifle out trekking or exploring once this spring or summer.
 
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I forgot about my 1891 Monkey Mausers, the bottom rifle has a AXXX serial number, so I figure it was made in 1892, the top rifle I don't know it's age, but I assume production of the 1891 ceased before 1900. They have both gone hunting with me, but never kilt nothing. I plan to take the bottom rifle out trekking or exploring once this spring or summer.

Those are stunners! I take it by “Monkey Mausers” these were Montgomery Wards sporters? Pretty cool.
 
135 year old (1886) '73 Winchester in 38 WCF. This rifle was a hot mess when I got it, and still is in some respects.

At some point somebody stripped the rifle and cold blued it. The magazine tube is dented and dinged the entire use. If you look carefully at the forearm just ahead of the receiver, you can see that it's been carried so much, that the wood there is very worn from a hand being wrapped around it. The bore was completely trashed and required a lining.

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1894 Winchester 30 WCF- I just recently received this rifle from my father-in-law, having belonged to his father and made in 1915, it has seen some seriously heavy use and neglect. It was covered in rust from SE Texas humidity and the bore is somewhat rough. I haven't done much shooting at all yet, but what little I did shows it'll still shoot great.

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