Jim Watson
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The current production guns are built at that length and are considered pistols.
No tax stamp... until you order the silencer.
No tax stamp... until you order the silencer.
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PWC
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What? It looks like a 410 dbl barrel.
DocRock
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To make money.
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John Wayne, Robert Mitchum, James Caan in El Dorado. Several scenes of reloading both pistols and rifles. That's the only example I can recall!And the best thing about those Hollywood westerns is they never ran out of bullets! I don't think I ever saw anyone reloading a pistol not even John Wayne
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Brubz
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Maybe there was reloading in the Alamo now that I think about it
Robbins290
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Speaking of Hollywood and westerns, The show "hell on wheels" shows a lot of reloading. The main character was in a shoot out with a cap and ball revolver. He popped the cylinder out and put in a loaded one for a faster reload. Thought that was a neat.
Archie
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Having taught a number of people to use a handgun for defense, I am still awed by the number of people - mostly men - who think they know how to operate or shoot a handgun (any handgun) by dint of watching movies with actors/characters like John Wayne, Clint Eastwood or "Superfly". The same principle applies to those who drive to those who have watched "Dukes of Hazzard", many of the Burt Reynolds movies or played one of the video driving games.
The 'mare's laig (leg)' cut down Winchester 1892 rifle has been made since the 1980s or so. The early one's were individual examples, made from rifles or carbines and did require a tax stamp as a 'short barreled rifle'. I saw one for the first time at a gun show in California (before it became the Socialist Utopia it is now) about that time, I cannot remember exactly. It (they?) were hideously expensive before the tax stamp. Chambered for .44 WCF as I recall.
The design of the arm is such one cannot brace it again a shoulder, and the buckhorn type sights are nearly impossible to use to any benefit. Stuck me at the time and still does as a 'pointing' arm. Intimidating to the less knowledgable and ignorant of the realities, but quite limited in range. A version was made by Rossi called the 'Ranch Hand'. Available in .357 or .44 Magnum or .45 Colt. Henry makes the configuration in various .22 rimfire calibers. There have been a couple others.
To me, it's a 'first on the block' device.
The 'mare's laig (leg)' cut down Winchester 1892 rifle has been made since the 1980s or so. The early one's were individual examples, made from rifles or carbines and did require a tax stamp as a 'short barreled rifle'. I saw one for the first time at a gun show in California (before it became the Socialist Utopia it is now) about that time, I cannot remember exactly. It (they?) were hideously expensive before the tax stamp. Chambered for .44 WCF as I recall.
The design of the arm is such one cannot brace it again a shoulder, and the buckhorn type sights are nearly impossible to use to any benefit. Stuck me at the time and still does as a 'pointing' arm. Intimidating to the less knowledgable and ignorant of the realities, but quite limited in range. A version was made by Rossi called the 'Ranch Hand'. Available in .357 or .44 Magnum or .45 Colt. Henry makes the configuration in various .22 rimfire calibers. There have been a couple others.
To me, it's a 'first on the block' device.
armedwalleye
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IIRC, Josey Wales did the same thing.
Unless it's a Nagant revolver
Stevie-Ray
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They must've paid attention to The Outlaw Josey Wales, where Clint Eastwood does this and even has leather holders for his "Old West speedloaders."
Whoops, somebody beat me to it.
Tommygunn
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You don't need a tax stamp for one that is manufactured and sold as one. The tv show got clipped because they made one from a rifle and that does require the tax stamp. A modern mares leg is sold as a pistol. I've seen the box that Rossi's are sold in and that is printed on the box .... apparently so salespeople don't get confused on the 4473.
Robbins290
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Only Clint eastwood movie i ever saw was Gran tourno. That's it. only westerns i watched are hell on wheels, and the new 3:10 to yuma.
Pat Riot
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That’s pretty funny right there. The first thing I thought of were all those “faux” Italian replica Western guns and then all those “faux” M-16s that everyone seems to love...and then there’s the “faux” Colt revolvers made by Smith & Wesson, Ruger, Charter...etc....
That’s pretty funny right there. The first thing I thought of were all those “faux” Italian replica Western guns and then all those “faux” M-16s that everyone seems to love...and then there’s the “faux” Colt revolvers made by Smith & Wesson, Ruger, Charter...etc....
But there is a difference, the faux Ruger et al six guns etc. have a useful purpose, the "thing" we are talking about here does not, at least that I can see other than being a copy of a TV series rifle, that likely never existed. And none of those other companies named themselves after a defunct historic company to attempt to establish credibility. But I should not nitpick as I search for a Henry 44 Mag. Big Boy All-Weather
. I think I will get my faux Henry with a full stock.
Pat Riot
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Technically the Mare’s Leg is a Handgun if it originated as such. Cutting a rifle into a Mare’s Leg is what will get you into trouble.
The only companies I am aware of that made and sold Mare’s Leg handguns are Rossi, Chiappa and Henry. Rossi and Chiappa used the Winchester 92 design as a base. Henry used their own design.
Rossi Ranch Hand (Mare’s Leg):
photo from this blog on the Ranch Hand:
https://unleaded-ink.blogspot.com/2012/06/rossi-ranch-hand-is-wild-west-tech.html?m=1
Chiappa Mare’s Leg:
Here is an article written by Denis Prisbrey, may he Rest In Peace.
https://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/rifles/chiappa-1892-mares-leg-rifle/
Here is a photo from that article:
Henry Mare’s Leg:
Below is a phot from Henry’s website:
https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/mares-leg/
Here’s a company that makes some pretty cool “Mare’s Leg Holsters”. I saw one of there holsters being sold along with a Rossi Ranch Hand “Mare’s Leg” in Oregon. It was very nicely made.
http://frontierleatherworks.com/MaresLeg.html
I actually considered buying that “Mare’s Leg” but then I held it up like I was firing it and it was kind of like getting behind the wheel of a hot looking car only to find that it has a 4 cylinder engine.
The only companies I am aware of that made and sold Mare’s Leg handguns are Rossi, Chiappa and Henry. Rossi and Chiappa used the Winchester 92 design as a base. Henry used their own design.
Rossi Ranch Hand (Mare’s Leg):
photo from this blog on the Ranch Hand:
https://unleaded-ink.blogspot.com/2012/06/rossi-ranch-hand-is-wild-west-tech.html?m=1
Chiappa Mare’s Leg:
Here is an article written by Denis Prisbrey, may he Rest In Peace.
https://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/rifles/chiappa-1892-mares-leg-rifle/
Here is a photo from that article:
Henry Mare’s Leg:
Below is a phot from Henry’s website:
https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/mares-leg/
Here’s a company that makes some pretty cool “Mare’s Leg Holsters”. I saw one of there holsters being sold along with a Rossi Ranch Hand “Mare’s Leg” in Oregon. It was very nicely made.
http://frontierleatherworks.com/MaresLeg.html
I actually considered buying that “Mare’s Leg” but then I held it up like I was firing it and it was kind of like getting behind the wheel of a hot looking car only to find that it has a 4 cylinder engine.
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Pat Riot
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But there is a difference, the faux Ruger et al six guns etc. have a useful purpose, the "thing" we are talking about here does not, at least that I can see other than being a copy of a TV series rifle, that likely never existed. And none of those other companies named themselves after a defunct historic company to attempt to establish credibility. But I should not nitpick as I search for a Henry 44 Mag. Big Boy All-Weather
I am glad my post didn’t anger you as that was not my intention. I was just busting your chops a bit.
I used to kind of feel the same way about Henry’s in regards to Cowboy Action but then I checked them out. Like you, I would like one of their All Weather guns. They can keep those Mare’s Legs though. Yuck!
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It's Hollyweird, they do things for visual interest, draw the viewer in, make things look good on screen. In The Last of the Mohicans all the knives were 2 feet long so they would show up on screen better, the gun stock club that Chingachook carries was way too big-a ceremonial one-but it looked great. The Nock Volley Gun in The Alamo-firing one fully loaded was like firing SEVEN Brown Besses at once.
I read that Kirby Grant of Sky King and Peter Graves of Fury complained that their shows weren't merchandised properly, and I can still the pages of the Montgomery Ward catalogues of the 1950s showing the play sets from the various TV programs-the one from The Lone Ranger really sticks out.
The Rifleman's rifle was probably inspired by the large loop Winchester carried by John Wayne in Stagecoach.
I recall an episode of Tales of Wells Fargo where the villain was quite indignant because the hero didn't draw his revolver, he had a device on his holster where all he had to do was pivot it to fire.
I read that Kirby Grant of Sky King and Peter Graves of Fury complained that their shows weren't merchandised properly, and I can still the pages of the Montgomery Ward catalogues of the 1950s showing the play sets from the various TV programs-the one from The Lone Ranger really sticks out.
The Rifleman's rifle was probably inspired by the large loop Winchester carried by John Wayne in Stagecoach.
I recall an episode of Tales of Wells Fargo where the villain was quite indignant because the hero didn't draw his revolver, he had a device on his holster where all he had to do was pivot it to fire.
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3Crows---With all due respect I must disagree with the Mares Leg as having no useful purpose. If 2 cretins were breaking into your house and all you had
was a Henry .44mag Mares Leg, I would guess you would forget about who made it and grab it in a flash.
was a Henry .44mag Mares Leg, I would guess you would forget about who made it and grab it in a flash.
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Brubz
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Just for fun I checked eBay Under vintage toys to see if they had any like the one that I foolishly sold off. the ones they had were made by Marx and we're like 5 and 1/2 in long I'm sure that my toy was much bigger than that maybe not as big as the prop that Steve used on the show but at least 14 or 15 in Long
Archie
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No Fender, I must respectfully disagree with you. If three cretins were forcing access to my residence, I would not have the device you mention; I'd have either a Lightweight Commander in .45 ACP or a large frame S&W in .44 Special. I prefer something less appealing to television audiences and more suited to close order violence.
Pat Riot
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Ah...here we go...
The Mare’s Leg is what I consider a “Novelty” gun. It wasn’t designed for anything but that. This isn’t about “Tacti-cool” or “self defense”. Give it a break...
The Mare’s Leg is what I consider a “Novelty” gun. It wasn’t designed for anything but that. This isn’t about “Tacti-cool” or “self defense”. Give it a break...
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I was just trying to show that the Mares Leg had some use---it might be your only gun.
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