Have You Known Many Colt Haters?

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On another forum I am in a heated debate with an 85 year old firearm's "expert" convinced that Colt Manufacturing Company never made a decent double action revolver in their history and are all vastly inferior to Smith & Wesson products. Furthermore, everyone who has ever fired a revolver knows this and only a complete idiot like me would even consider owning a Colt revolver.

I have no interest in arguing the merits of this silly argument but I am curious to know if this thinking has been encountered by others here and how often? This is the first time in fifty years of gun ownership I have met someone so persuaded.
 
I don't own any Colts. Not because they are bad, but because I haven't found the right deal at the right time. I do believe though that many models of Colt revolvers are overpriced compared to their S&W counterparts.
To answer your question, I don't know anyone who hates Colt revolvers.
 
You can find haters of just about any firearm brand on every board. Here, there, they’re everywhere.

Opinions are like bootys… everyone has one and at some point or another they all kind of stink. So he doesn’t like Colts? Ok. Then, kind sir, don’t buy one. ;)

Life is too short to let it twist your knickers.

Stay safe.
 
That’s pretty funny that someone “hates” Colts. This is a first for me. I have only owned 3 Colt’s handguns; 2 1911s and 1 Colt Detective Special, so I am no authority, but I know of Colt quality and I sure wouldn’t look down my nose at a Colt.

I have encountered lovers of Colt revolvers that shun S&Ws and Rugers and won’t even discuss other revolvers. If anything I have encountered more “Colt Snobs” than anyone else. To be fair though, these were Cowboy Action Shooters mostly, but I have encountered snobs regarding Colt DA revolvers.

Personally, I like S&W DA revolvers and Ruger SA revolvers. I haven’t owned many Colts because of the cost of them when I encounter them for sale, not because I don’t want to own any of them. ;)
 
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I have had several Colt revolvers over the years. Some were fairly decent (Trooper Mk.III and two Trooper Mk. Vs), some were poorly made and finished (Colt Agent during the company's labor troubles years), and one that was beautifully designed and built (Colt Detective Special). And I have come across my fair share of mediocre (in terms of function and fit and finish), S&Ws as well.

Certainly nothing worth "hating on" though. I leave that to small minded people who have nothing better to do than to push their own favorite brand while talking down anyone else who disagrees with their agenda.
 
nobody by the name of Colt has done anything to me to deserve my hatred.....in fact no one I can think of has gotten past a strong dislike....
Things are just things, dont dislike any of them enough to get excited about it.
tho theres a number I wont own and/or dont use for what ever reason....Colt firearms being one specifically because of the cost, and availability ....no one I know has one.....
Haven't seen a smith I've really wanted to spend the money on either, tho I shoot them when some one offers. I'm sure other folks feel the same way about the Rugers and Taurus I like.....
 
I've never met anyone who hated Colts and told me about it.

Back when I'd never owned a classic Colt or S&W revolver, I bought one of each to see what they were like.

The S&W was made in 1915-16. The Colt was made in 1921. They are both DA/SA revolvers in 38 special with 4" barrels.

I slightly prefer the Colt. It has slightly better sights and fits my hand a little bit better.


 
How does he feel about Colt 1911s? I’ve noticed that like revolver-haters, there are specific narrow-minded groups of 1911 haters…..why my Asian clone is so much better than a Colt! I would never own a Colt! My custom gunsmith would never touch or work on anything but Asian 1911 frames and slides! (smh)

But to your post, yes, I have encountered these folks plenty of times over the years at gun shows, gun shops, and on the interweb.
 
If I can just walk away from something, there is very little need to get to emotional over it.

I currently work a job in heavy equipment maintenance. I can’t walk away from a certain brand of equipment. (cough cough John Deere) so that breeds a certain amount of dislike more so than usual. Luckily there is still some sensible equipment around to balance it out.

Same thing with guns.
 
On another forum I am in a heated debate with an 85 year old firearm's "expert" convinced that Colt Manufacturing Company never made a decent double action revolver in their history and are all vastly inferior to Smith & Wesson products. Furthermore, everyone who has ever fired a revolver knows this and only a complete idiot like me would even consider owning a Colt revolver.

I have no interest in arguing the merits of this silly argument but I am curious to know if this thinking has been encountered by others here and how often? This is the first time in fifty years of gun ownership I have met someone so persuaded.


Sometimes these reactions are push back to product Cultists or maybe someone who met a Colt Executive. I was quite surprised to find how much the Pony meant to a large population of the shooting community. The Pony sells. Used to be, for AR15, Colt AR15 Cultists were very loud and vocal how Colt was the only true AR15, and all others were crap. I do remember, back in the 1970's, 80's, up to the Kimber Custom Classic, the only good 1911's on the market were Colt, and the rest were crap! It was a huge event when Kimber introduced the Custom Classic, and a very serious threat to Colt.


It is always surprising to find the power of brand names. Many here remember how awful American cars were by the 1970's. Stud's Terkle quoted a GM Executive who said "Manufacturing makes it, Marketing sells it, and Customer Service makes it work." This was the business model for American cars. You paid $15,000, drove the vehicle off the lot, and within the month you were sitting in the Service Department waiting for the vehicle to be fixed. This happy period for the American Automobile Companies ended when American's discovered cheap, reliable, Japanese cars. General Motors almost went bankrupt. Japanese cars were selling for a premium, the Japanese could not met American demand. A buyer of a Japanese car paid list, plus additional dealer profit. (ADP). However, the sixth generation Novas were a relabeled Toyota Corolla, and if you were at the GM dealership, that car sold for a discount!


Colt revolvers were state of the art in the 1920's, but the lockworks remained the same delicate, handfitted parts they always were, and that was a mistake in my opinion. In comparison to what Ruger was doing, creating price competitive, durable, revolvers, Colt never fundamentally improved their product line. It took Colt until 1990 to introduce a 44 Magnum revolver! They were totally behind the times.


I did get to meet a Colt Executive at the Camp Perry National Matches. Colt had a table of Hbars, all of which has 1:9 twist barrels. None of these rifles were competitive at 600 yards, because the largest bullet that could be used, was the 69 grain match king. The 69 SMK is a superbly accurate bullet out to 300 yards, but floats like a badminton shuttlecock at 600 yards. I did ask the Colt Executive behind the table why they did not install a 1:8 barrel, which would have allowed 80 gr SMK's, and the rifle to be competitive at 600 yards, That Executive replied that Colt was selling all the HBars they could produce and it was stupid of me to ask the question. Here is Colt, at the National Matches, selling rifles that no competitors could use out of the box, and yet we, the shooters. were the stupid ones! It had to be a total financial bust for Colt, and knowing how Corporations act, they never came back, as they did not want reality to intrude on their delusions of perfection.


I have no romantic feelings for Colt, or their products. I also don't believe rocks have genders, though many people buy pink "girl" rocks, and "blue" boy rocks and treat them as people. To me, fake hair and a paint job do not change the essentials of the items: they are rocks. Colt has always been, just another brand with products that I may like, or dislike. Colt has always been over priced, and behind the times.
 
Except for the really older one, I never really liked the Colts. But it’s just a personal opinion. Why they are so expensive and coveted, I will never understand. But it’s a personal opinion. I mean, people fight over Beanie Babies too so……

Lefty
 
I've now had some experience with
the new Colts, i.e. the Cobras and
the Python 2020. Studied their
actions and assayed them.

And I've had experience with the
older Pythons, having owned a
number of them.

Today, if I were offered a choice
of an old/or new
Smith 686, Ruger GP-100
or a Python 2020 as shooters,
the choice would be simple:

Smith first,
Ruger a decidedly close second,
Colt, only if that was all I could get.

Not a matter of hate, just
experience in use and
maintenance.
 
Have You Known Many Colt Haters?
None to my knowledge.


On another forum I am in a heated debate with an 85 year old firearm's "expert" convinced that Colt Manufacturing Company never made a decent double action revolver in their history and are all vastly inferior to Smith & Wesson products. Furthermore, everyone who has ever fired a revolver knows this and only a complete idiot like me would even consider owning a Colt revolver. ...
Sounds like a de-light-ful old fella. A real pleasure to be around, I expect. ;)

... and the kind of person with whom I would not even engage.

FWIW, I own 4 Colt DA revolvers and 5 S&W DA revolvers, and only one of the lot was mfd after 1924 ... and all function very well. :)
 
There are Colt branded products and Colt the corporation/business. Both are uniquely famous for different reasons and have periodically appeared to be sworn enemies of each other. Maybe Česká zbrojovka in Uherský Brod is better at managing quality, politics, and greed. It sucks, and many of my classic "colts" are W.O.P's. Maybe someday one will be a Colt queen bohemian rhapsody. :rofl:
 
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I have no interest in arguing the merits. . .
So, this thread will be sticking strictly to name calling, no merits permitted?

If your head's adapted to how Smiths work, wear, and fail, then the Colt design is odd. Different parts wear and fail, and those V leaf springs. . . gack o_O

Once your head turns Smithward, turning Coltward is dizzying. Imagine a Honda mechanic asked to adjust the valve train on an MG.
 
John Deere, Colt, and Notre Dame all have a following of righteous fans unable to refrain with endless prophesies of their virtues.

I could see one becoming a "hater" of any of these brands due to that very provocation.

For the record, I've never had the need for a Deere, have passed purchasing Colts with cash in pocket due to exorbitant price, and often can be found cheering for the team playing against ND. ;)
 
I don't know any Colt haters.
I don't know any S&W haters.
I don't know any Ruger haters.

What I do know is that I own two Colt Troopers and a nickle Combat Commander that get shot quite regularly. Never had an issue with any of them.
Would I like an Anaconda or Python? Sure...if I could find one at a price I think is reasonable.

I also own four N frame S&W revolvers, a 686 and a Model 10. Never had any issues with them either and fully expect to buy more in the future.

I also own a large number of Ruger BlackHawks and SBH revolvers and have had no issues with them either.

Same goes for my Virginian Dragoons, Ubertis, Cimarrons, etc other than an occassional ejector rod screw loosening up.

About the only firearm I have ever had a real issue with was a brand new Marlin .44Mag carbine that had to go back to Remlin and have the barrel replaced. It is now very accurate and completely reliable.

Yes...I have had a couple revolvers and semi auto pistols from across the spectrum of manufacturers that required some minor tweaking but nothing that warranted sending them back to the manufacturer for corrective work.

Maybe I have just been lucky or maybe I just know what to look for when examining new or used firearms prior to purchasing them.
 
Imagine a Honda mechanic asked to adjust the valve train on an MG.
Well, yeah, the Honda guy has no idea the oil is supposed to drip on the exhaust manifold in an MG . . . [:)]

I've been lucky, never ran into "haters." Now, I've met some "S&W or nothing" folks; but that's largely a Ford/GMC/Dodge thing.

Now, in fairness, I do know of one, just one, Taurus wheelgun hater--but, that's different [:)]
 
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