Thoughts of life and Colt

[dbluefish]

Well as a former Marine but still a Marine and 80yo(I don't consider myself elderly but experienced in the vicissitudes of life), I enjoy my guns(ranging from a Molot VEPR in 7.62 x 54r to an S&W made by Walther .22 pistol, and did not have a revolver so I now have a new Colt Cobra and opened it looks really well made and the trigger is the smoothest of any gun I have ever fired. And at $580 OTD a steal. I think Colt is on the way back. They will have some bumps but if this Cobra is an indication, I see great things ahead. Besides, isn't it how we enjoy life that is the key? Over pay? If you enjoy it, THWI! Criticism? Merely the gravy that makes life a little more interesting!

Semper Fi
USMC '62 - '65 and no it was not the Civil War, lol
paul

 

[Drail]

Here's the deal - the men who used to handfit the old Colts PERFECTLY - are gone. They're either dead or in nursing homes. They are not coming back. Colt cannot make a revolver like the old ones - even if they wanted to. And you wouldn't want to pay the price they would charge even if they could. If you want to experience the joy of a fine Colt revolver you have to buy an old one.

 

[Catman42]

if you take that colt and put a decent forcing cone in it and send it away to a smith who can ream the cylinders to the proper size you will be able to get 1 inch groups at 20 yards. doug guy,if you can find him on the internet will get that thing shooting as you want it to. most likely the cylinder where the bullet comes out is way too tight and undersizes you bullets. smith and ruger do this bad thing also. now days most revolver except uberti are not really finished when they leave the factory. they are not broke, just not finished as they used to be. i dont know about really very high end ones. maybe they are finished.

 

[Kleanbore]

Colt cannot make a revolver like the old ones - even if they wanted to

Th e make better ones--well finished, stronger, without the need for anywhere near as much hand-fitting, and without some of the weaknesses that led to the need for periodic rework.

And you wouldn't want to pay the price they would charge even if they could.

The marketplace is telling us otherwise.

If you want to experience the joy of a fine Colt revolver you have to buy an old one.

The new ones represent a significant improvement.

 

[John Joseph]

I prefer single action Colts, both revolver and semi auto.
The Colt SA trigger is amazing.

 

[Tallball]

I got this one just a couple of years ago. It shoots great. I thought the price was quite reasonable.

Colt Army Special

• Tallball
• Mar 4, 2018

 

[Old Dog]

I have been lead to believe Colt is the name brand of quality and accuracy and why should it not be when the base price is $2500 a item. That quality and accuracy ends at the name on the box. The reality of this new "COLT" if you can really call it that is a redisened turd whose fit and finish is right up there with Rock Island Armory revolvers. The accuracy is dismal as well. If I wanted accuracy I would have chossen a proven winner Dan Wesson model 15 in any barrel length obtainable. This colt will not shoot better than 6 inch groups a 25 yards. I mean come on 6'' groups why not buy a shotgun and do better. Colt at this moment is just a term for look what I can afford to buy and nothing else, I simply can't understand why people would buy this crap.Its always interesting to notice Colt's buying dempgraphic are Ithe elderly and such who will argue you to death that that Colt is an investment and you'll see in ten years when you sell which is worth more. I will let this colt go back to the fold and hope to regain a $1000 and in ten years when Grandpa is dead and I have my $1000 back I guess I will feel a right smart silly. Bottom line stay away from Colt

You paid $2500 for a new Colt Python, current MSRP $1500? "What's "redisened?" At any rate, I've never, ever seen any Colt, old or new, where the fit and finish could be compared with an RIA product. Anyway, every review I've seen notes the superb fit and finish of the new Python. Very strange. Also, interestingly, all the reviews (even the initial reviews with some folks noting some issues with the new Pythons) were fairly universally consistent with regard to the excellent accuracy of the new revolver. I'll keep buying Colts, as I have an open mind and am actually a pretty good shot who doesn't always blame the gun first if there seem to be initial issues.

My advice: at 28 years old, don't try to lecture those of us who've been shooting for more than twice as long as you've been drawing breath on this planet; learn to shoot from a rest, and don't try to tell people how much you don't know about what you don't know. Also, most folks your age know how to use "spellcheck."

 

[Alec]

I’m no mod, but some of the replies here aren’t very high road... come on, fellas.

 

[Monac]

The government is responding to a pandemic. When a person's house is wrecked by a hurricane, should they blame the hurricane for wrecking it or the government for saying it is not longer habitable? The pandemic is at fault. The government is trying to keep it from becoming much worse.

Also, you are 28, unemployed, and buying a Colt Python? Wow. I hope you got a bargain so you can resell at a useful profit. When I was 28, about $300 was my limit for a gun. That would be between $600 and $900 now, I guess. And I was steadily employed (and single, and living in a tiny apartment, and my car was paid for).

I cannot address the rest of your post, because I have never owned a Python, and to be truthful, the first paragraph kind of jolted me to a stop.

PS - in fairness, I should add that a Python must be one of the most readily salable guns around, whereas the kind of things I liked (FN 1900? Warner Infallible? Refinished CZ 38?) were much harder to turn back into cash.

 

[CajunBass]

I've got three new ones (2 Pythons and a Cobra). I'm quite happy with all three. Sorry you got a bum one. It happens I suppose.

Are they "better" than a Smith and Wesson? Probably not. But I've got Smith and Wesson's. This time I wanted Pythons.

 

[The Evangelist Cowboy]

The government is responding to a pandemic. When a person's house is wrecked by a hurricane, should they blame the hurricane for wrecking it or the government for saying it is not longer habitable? The pandemic is at fault. The government is trying to keep it from becoming much worse.

Also, you are 28, unemployed, and buying a Colt Python? Wow. I hope you got a bargain so you can resell at a useful profit. When I was 28, about $300 was my limit for a gun. That would be between $600 and $900 now, I guess. And I was steadily employed (and single, and living in a tiny apartment, and my car was paid for).

I cannot address the rest of your post, because I have never owned a Python, and to be truthful, the first paragraph kind of jolted me to a stop.

PS - in fairness, I should add that a Python must be one of the most readily salable guns around, whereas the kind of things I liked (FN 1900? Warner Infallible? Refinished CZ 38?) were much harder to turn back into cash.

I'm 27... I have a home, two paid off cars, and a job and going to school... oh also got a wife with a master's degree and two kids must've hit the jackpot!!! Oh and for the other guy that was 28 or something I still buy Colt

 

[CraigC]

One thing people don't seem to realize is that in the old days, hand fitting was necessary because machining was so imprecise. USFA's and FA's aren't so precise because they're all hand fitted. They're so good because the machine work is so good. Hand fitting is minimal. From what I've seen of these new Colt's, their machine work is fantastic and the polishing is near perfect.

 

[Catman42]

nice looking gun very well made, just that all the companies need to do a better job on their cylinder boring. as to being 28 years old and asking questions. keep asking, little by little you will lean many things and soon you will be a cranky old you know what. never stop asking question. just dont ask the same one twice. that means you didnt learn a thing the first time. at 78 years old im a way better shot than i was at 28. ive learned what makes a revolver shoot tight. can do many of the tweeking my self. if a cylinder is real bad then i have to send it away. not back to the factory. as they sold you a new nice gun that isnt broke. it just doesnt shoot as good as it should. the rest is up to you to do to it or a good gunsmith.

 

[KY DAN]

The government is responding to a pandemic. When a person's house is wrecked by a hurricane, should they blame the hurricane for wrecking it or the government for saying it is not longer habitable? The pandemic is at fault. The government is trying to keep it from becoming much worse.

Also, you are 28, unemployed, and buying a Colt Python? Wow. I hope you got a bargain so you can resell at a useful profit. When I was 28, about $300 was my limit for a gun. That would be between $600 and $900 now, I guess. And I was steadily employed (and single, and living in a tiny apartment, and my car was paid for).

I cannot address the rest of your post, because I have never owned a Python, and to be truthful, the first paragraph kind of jolted me to a stop.

PS - in fairness, I should add that a Python must be one of the most readily salable guns around, whereas the kind of things I liked (FN 1900? Warner Infallible? Refinished CZ 38?) were much harder to turn back into cash.

As to the first statement I had a job for 8 years working 60 plus hours a week and the government shut down all business and now I am out on my ass you tell me who is at fault.

You paid $2500 for a new Colt Python, current MSRP $1500? "What's "redisened?" At any rate, I've never, ever seen any Colt, old or new, where the fit and finish could be compared with an RIA product. Anyway, every review I've seen notes the superb fit and finish of the new Python. Very strange. Also, interestingly, all the reviews (even the initial reviews with some folks noting some issues with the new Pythons) were fairly universally consistent with regard to the excellent accuracy of the new revolver. I'll keep buying Colts, as I have an open mind and am actually a pretty good shot who doesn't always blame the gun first if there seem to be initial issues.

My advice: at 28 years old, don't try to lecture those of us who've been shooting for more than twice as long as you've been drawing breath on this planet; learn to shoot from a rest, and don't try to tell people how much you don't know about what you don't know. Also, most folks your age know how to use "spellcheck."

I paid $1000 if you read the previous post, I also have 50,000 rounds through various colt revolvers, I hit 6 inch plates at 100 yards with a 6'' Dan wesson 15 and ruger sec six. And writing is not my think just stating my experience with this crappy new production Clot Python.

 

[Gary W. Strange]

I bought one of the Colt New Frontiers, a few years back. I ordered it through my local gun shop and I waited a year and a half for it to be delivered. I was disappointed, when I finally got it. Mostly with the grips. They were not well fitted at all. The left grip was filed off on the bottom where it touched the frame. I expected much better. The Colts I own, except for the NF, are older, and they are fine firearms. I put a Colt Python, when I turned 21, back in the mid 80s. It has been nothing but great. I would be hesitant to buy a new Colt now. Colt is sure not what it once was. Sorry to hear about your troubles with Colt and the job situation. As a die maker/ machinist, you will find work. That’s a dying trade now days and in demand.

 

[CraigC]

I have never judged a revolver by its factory grips.j If I did, I wouldn't own any. They almost universally suck.

I would MUCH rather have any new Colt and would be more likely to buy one sight unseen than ANY Colt made in the `80's.

 

[Old Dog]

I paid $1000 if you read the previous post, I also have 50,000 rounds through various colt revolvers, I hit 6 inch plates at 100 yards with a 6'' Dan wesson 15 and ruger sec six. And writing is not my think just stating my experience with this crappy new production Clot Python.

Oh, so you paid $500 under MSRP for a revolver most of us throughout the country cannot find at all, and if we can, it's going for substantially above the MSRP of $1500. 50,000 rounds through "various colt [sic] revolvers and you're unemployed and only 28 years old? You want to know how long it took me to get 50,000 rounds through various revolvers of several makes? Sorry, my b.s. detector is beeping madly. You come forth to crap on a revolver that's been received with almost universal acclaim, while stating you can hit 6" plates at 100 yards with a revolver? All righty then. You've given us all the information we need.

 

[Monac]

As to the first statement I had a job for 8 years working 60 plus hours a week and the government shut down all business and now I am out on my ass you tell me who is at fault.

I did tell you who was at fault. COVID-19 is at fault. Unless you feel it is wrong for a government to try and keep people from dying of it. Or if you feel their response to it is not the right way to do it. Both are arguable, but you haven't done that.